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Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras
      Mon Nov 21 2005 05:41 PM

Psyber -- no complaints here on your claims about global warming in your most recent post. We know warming is going on, we just don't know our contributions to it all, if any substantial ones. It's when global warming is used to explain everything that occurs in the tropics and elsewhere that the meteorological community goes on the prowl, something quite warranted in my view.

We also don't know a lot about all of the factors involved in our climate system and have only crude approximations for a lot of what goes on. There is sensitivity to the initial conditions, sensitivity to the model parameterizations used, and sensitivity to just about anything you can think of -- as I've learned with just short-term weather modeling, you can create just about anything you want with a computer model. I don't disagree that there's something out there...it's just not the end-all for the entire field and it reflects the sad state of meteorological funding that all money is going into climate change research and not actually advancing the science. (And don't get me started on hurricane modification projects getting $80m in funding from Congress while the Hurricane Research Division continually gets denied for extra funding on top of the ~$5m that barely sustains the complex.)

This is a debate better served for another time and another forum here on the website, though. For now, it's time to start looking toward 95L's way out in the central Atlantic as a fairly substantial subtropical cyclone. Model projections show it completing tropical transition sometime early tomorrow; knowing that the NHC is looking at the progs and watching satellite, it's probably only a matter of time before we have at least a subtropical cyclone on our hands -- Delta.

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* Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Clark Mon Nov 21 2005 05:41 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Lee-Delray   Mon Nov 21 2005 08:39 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Clark   Mon Nov 21 2005 09:43 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Psyber   Mon Nov 21 2005 11:36 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Tak   Mon Nov 21 2005 12:20 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras HanKFranK   Mon Nov 21 2005 12:38 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Psyber   Mon Nov 21 2005 02:31 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Clark   Mon Nov 21 2005 05:41 PM
. * * Clarifications Ed DunhamAdministrator   Mon Nov 21 2005 09:11 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Lee-Delray   Mon Nov 21 2005 05:53 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Clark   Tue Nov 22 2005 01:39 AM
. * * delta time... HanKFranK   Tue Nov 22 2005 10:35 AM
. * * Re: delta time... Margie   Tue Nov 22 2005 12:21 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras typhoon_tip   Mon Nov 21 2005 07:56 PM
. * * Global Warming and weather events.. typhoon_tip   Mon Nov 21 2005 08:35 PM
. * * Re: Global Warming and weather events.. ltpat228   Mon Nov 21 2005 09:38 PM
. * * A little hint.... Doombot!   Tue Nov 22 2005 12:40 AM
. * * Re: Global Warming and weather events.. HanKFranK   Mon Nov 21 2005 09:37 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Katie   Mon Nov 21 2005 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Clark   Mon Nov 21 2005 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras ftlaudbob   Mon Nov 21 2005 11:13 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Hurricane Dad   Mon Nov 21 2005 11:18 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Rabbit   Mon Nov 21 2005 11:36 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Lee-Delray   Mon Nov 21 2005 12:14 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Rabbit   Mon Nov 21 2005 10:04 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Lee-Delray   Mon Nov 21 2005 10:02 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Lee-Delray   Sun Nov 20 2005 10:17 AM
. * * 95L HanKFranK   Sun Nov 20 2005 11:54 AM
. * * Re: 95L Genesis   Sun Nov 20 2005 02:32 PM
. * * Re: 95L Lee-Delray   Sun Nov 20 2005 03:26 PM
. * * how about some predictions here?! vineyardsaker   Sun Nov 20 2005 07:32 PM
. * * Re: how about some predictions here?! Clark   Sun Nov 20 2005 08:43 PM
. * * GAMMA...Gone danielwAdministrator   Sun Nov 20 2005 10:54 PM
. * * 9 Days and counting danielwAdministrator   Sun Nov 20 2005 07:49 PM
. * * 95L and GOM Low danielwAdministrator   Sun Nov 20 2005 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Lee-Delray   Sat Nov 19 2005 09:44 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Lee-Delray   Sat Nov 19 2005 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras ralphfl   Sat Nov 19 2005 05:38 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras pincty   Sat Nov 19 2005 07:03 PM
. * * Tropical Storm Classification danielwAdministrator   Sat Nov 19 2005 08:27 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Classification WXMAN RICHIE   Sat Nov 19 2005 08:41 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Classification danielwAdministrator   Sat Nov 19 2005 08:50 PM
. * * More points to ponder danielwAdministrator   Sat Nov 19 2005 09:18 PM
. * * Re: More points to ponder Old Sailor   Sat Nov 19 2005 10:37 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras ftlaudbob   Sat Nov 19 2005 04:07 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Lee-Delray   Sat Nov 19 2005 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Old Sailor   Sat Nov 19 2005 01:37 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras dave foster   Sat Nov 19 2005 01:47 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Lee-Delray   Sat Nov 19 2005 11:45 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras bobbutts   Sat Nov 19 2005 12:59 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras MikeCAdministrator   Sat Nov 19 2005 11:37 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras srsarner   Sat Nov 19 2005 09:34 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sat Nov 19 2005 10:01 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Clark   Sat Nov 19 2005 11:06 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Margie   Sat Nov 19 2005 04:36 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras Lee-Delray   Sat Nov 19 2005 04:46 PM
. * * Bye Bye Gamma Wxwatcher2   Sat Nov 19 2005 05:09 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye Gamma Clark   Sat Nov 19 2005 11:10 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye Gamma Lee-Delray   Sat Nov 19 2005 05:14 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Katie   Fri Nov 18 2005 03:49 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Tropics Guy   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:00 PM
. * * Weather Station WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Nov 18 2005 03:59 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras ralphfl   Fri Nov 18 2005 03:56 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Thunderbird12   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:00 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Margie   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:07 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Tak   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:21 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Rich B   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:33 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Thunderbird12   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:46 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Margie   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:46 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Rich B   Fri Nov 18 2005 05:21 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Margie   Fri Nov 18 2005 05:23 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Wxwatcher2   Fri Nov 18 2005 05:33 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:39 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Lee-Delray   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:37 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Tak   Fri Nov 18 2005 05:07 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Lee-Delray   Fri Nov 18 2005 05:12 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras ralphfl   Fri Nov 18 2005 05:16 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Lysis   Fri Nov 18 2005 05:21 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Nov 18 2005 06:09 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Thunderbird12   Fri Nov 18 2005 06:17 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras dave foster   Fri Nov 18 2005 06:43 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras ralphfl   Fri Nov 18 2005 05:58 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras ralphfl   Fri Nov 18 2005 10:30 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras pincty   Fri Nov 18 2005 06:49 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Dawn   Fri Nov 18 2005 07:04 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras ChessieStorm   Fri Nov 18 2005 11:07 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras danielwAdministrator   Fri Nov 18 2005 11:18 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras saluki   Sat Nov 19 2005 01:18 AM
. * * 4 AM EST Advisory...oops danielwAdministrator   Sat Nov 19 2005 04:15 AM
. * * Re: 4 AM EST Advisory...oops danielwAdministrator   Sat Nov 19 2005 04:27 AM
. * * Re: 4 AM EST Advisory...oops Hugh   Sat Nov 19 2005 09:32 AM
. * * Re: 4 AM EST Advisory...oops ralphfl   Sat Nov 19 2005 08:00 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras pincty   Fri Nov 18 2005 07:14 PM
. * * Why I think it's heading to Tampa Bloodstar   Fri Nov 18 2005 06:36 PM
. * * Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa Hootowl   Fri Nov 18 2005 07:03 PM
. * * Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa Ron Basso   Fri Nov 18 2005 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa HanKFranK   Fri Nov 18 2005 07:55 PM
. * * Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* collegemom   Fri Nov 18 2005 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa Lee-Delray   Fri Nov 18 2005 07:48 PM
. * * Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa weatherwatcher999   Fri Nov 18 2005 08:08 PM
. * * Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa Major7   Fri Nov 18 2005 09:49 PM
. * * Gamma danielwAdministrator   Fri Nov 18 2005 08:20 PM
. * * Area Forecast Dicussion excerpts danielwAdministrator   Fri Nov 18 2005 08:34 PM
. * * SHIPS forecast danielwAdministrator   Fri Nov 18 2005 09:02 PM
. * * Re: SHIPS forecast Lee-Delray   Fri Nov 18 2005 09:07 PM
. * * Re: SHIPS forecast laxpimpj   Fri Nov 18 2005 09:47 PM
. * * Classes and Recon danielwAdministrator   Fri Nov 18 2005 09:56 PM
. * * Re: Classes and Recon dave foster   Fri Nov 18 2005 10:09 PM
. * * Re: SHIPS forecast Hugh   Fri Nov 18 2005 09:49 PM
. * * Gamma Hugh   Fri Nov 18 2005 09:46 PM
. * * Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa Hugh   Fri Nov 18 2005 07:03 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Lee-Delray   Fri Nov 18 2005 06:07 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Tak   Fri Nov 18 2005 05:55 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma rmbjoe1954   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:43 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Rich B   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:39 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Lee-Delray   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:44 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Lee-Delray   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:16 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras HURRICANELONNY   Fri Nov 18 2005 03:55 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras *DELETED* Lee-Delray   Fri Nov 18 2005 03:57 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras ralphfl   Fri Nov 18 2005 03:59 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras Lee-Delray   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:02 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras ralphfl   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:05 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras HURRICANELONNY   Fri Nov 18 2005 04:05 PM

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