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Re: dark day?
      Thu May 25 2006 07:36 PM

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Last year, I requested info from FSU and received a reply that the particular information was not available to the general public. pshaw! I found a backdoor for the info I wanted.



That is the problem.

Weather information that is provided by the government is paid for by tax dollars, is public domain, and should be so.

Not all university research is funded through tax dollars. A surprisingly large amount is funded by private interests, and in such cases bound by legal agreements, and by definition is not public domain. What is further, there is a difference between an experimental prototype, which is still being researched and improved, and any targeted future commercial product that can be derived from it.

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I like being able to have many different types of data to look through.



Just because information exists, doesn't mean it is public domain.




I suppose Accounting has some means of seperating the dollars such that the University can say, 'this is public domain' or 'this is private copyrighted work'
Unfortunately their logic seems to be, 'we're afraid of getting sued' so let's hide all this information.

I'd be happy with a middle ground, where they set up a somewhat restricted access that let people sign up after agreeing to some sort of EULA to the effect of: 'I understand that these are not forecast products and are here for educational purposes. yadda yadda'

Having not seen the models, nor seen what it takes to power them, I don't know how much computing power is needed to produce the models in question. Nor do I know how and were the information is stored. or if it would be accessable by another party. But in a perfect world.

Build a GPL'd software that is able to:
1) generate the datapoints needed to model the atmospheric changes over time
2) create a graphical model of said datapoints to enable easy understanding of the information generated.

2 can be created from having access to the raw data.

being able to create a system to generate the raw data would be an amazing and spectacular project, (yeah, see that one up on sourceforge) but honestly, I don't even have enough information to know where to start.

(if computing power is an issue. ther'es always a internet distributed project like [Email]seti@home)[/Email]

The big question comes down to, who's paying for the raw data.

yeah, I'm all over the map with this post; so I'll shut up now.
-Mark

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M. S. Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Georgia Tech - May 2020
NOAA MADIS/HADS Programmer
U. Arizona PhD Student

Edited by danielw (Mon May 29 2006 12:48 AM)

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* FSU product discussion Clark Thu May 25 2006 07:36 PM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion GuppieGrouper   Fri Jun 09 2006 07:46 AM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion Hootowl   Fri Jun 16 2006 11:28 AM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion Margie   Fri Jun 16 2006 11:45 AM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion madmumbler   Fri May 26 2006 03:46 PM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion Random Chaos   Fri May 26 2006 06:08 PM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion madmumbler   Sat May 27 2006 09:25 AM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion GuppieGrouper   Fri May 26 2006 06:40 PM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion madmumbler   Sat May 27 2006 09:35 AM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion Clark   Sat May 27 2006 03:37 PM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion madmumbler   Thu Jun 08 2006 07:22 AM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion Margie   Sun Jun 04 2006 02:10 PM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion GuppieGrouper   Sun Jun 04 2006 04:08 PM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion Clark   Sun Jun 04 2006 05:53 PM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion CaneTrackerInSoFl   Sun Jun 04 2006 04:27 PM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion madmumbler   Sat May 27 2006 09:27 AM
. * * Re: FSU product discussion Hootowl   Fri May 26 2006 12:10 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... RedingtonBeachGuy   Thu May 25 2006 08:10 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... wereallgonnadie   Thu May 25 2006 10:34 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... Random Chaos   Thu May 25 2006 10:51 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... winterwx   Thu May 25 2006 11:53 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... firestar_1   Fri May 26 2006 12:09 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... Hootowl   Thu May 25 2006 06:22 AM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... Steve H1   Thu May 25 2006 09:38 AM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... Margie   Thu May 25 2006 02:51 PM
. * * dark day? HanKFranK   Thu May 25 2006 03:45 PM
. * * Re: dark day? Major7   Thu May 25 2006 05:45 PM
. * * Re: dark day? Margie   Thu May 25 2006 06:05 PM
. * * Re: dark day? Major7   Fri May 26 2006 09:15 PM
. * * Re: dark day? Bloodstar   Thu May 25 2006 07:36 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... Wingman51   Thu May 25 2006 09:34 AM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... leetdan   Wed May 24 2006 06:52 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... Bloodstar   Wed May 24 2006 07:12 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... danielwAdministrator   Wed May 24 2006 07:53 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... Clark   Wed May 24 2006 08:29 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... CaneTrackerInSoFl   Wed May 24 2006 06:13 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... cdm-orlando   Wed May 24 2006 05:28 PM
. * * You beat me to it. Margie   Wed May 24 2006 03:33 PM
. * * Re: A dark day in meteorology... CoalCracker   Wed May 24 2006 03:07 PM

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