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Hugh
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Loc: Okaloosa County, Florida

Re: It's trying, it really is....
Wed May 09 2007 07:58 AM

Quote:

Recon is around in there now, but hasn't sent back a full report (Vortex message), but the system still doesn't have all that much convection wise around the center. We'll probably know fairly shortly.

I thought that was the main difference between a subtropical and tropical system - the fact that in a subtropical storm the convection is largely separated and out from the LLC - that plus the cold core in a subtropical system.

Regarding my earlier comments - things are changing with time with this system. Earlier this morning it looked less impressive to me, but now it's back to getting its act together - VERY rapidly. In fact, it looks more impressive now than ever, particularly in the 1115z image, which is the latest I'm seeing.

Edit: Just pulled up the Jacksonville radar. The center of circulation is clearly visible as a very large eye-like feature on the long range radar. Maybe it's just that the radar loop is not very long - but I also notice this on the AVN loop now that I look at it closer - but I don't think "Unnamed/Andrea" is moving very fast, if at all. Given that the LLC is sitting over or very close to the Gulf stream waters... not good.

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Hugh

Eloise (1975) - Elena and several other near misses (1985) - Erin & Opal (1995) - Ivan (2004)

Edited by Hugh (Wed May 09 2007 08:08 AM)

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Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	MikeC	Wed May 09 2007 07:58 AM
Re: interesting obs on smoke and the storm	NewWatcher	Wed May 09 2007 10:47 AM
interesting obs on smoke and the storm	LoisCane	Wed May 09 2007 10:38 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	ChessieStorm	Wed May 09 2007 10:27 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	vineyardsaker	Wed May 09 2007 10:23 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	AdrianInFlorida	Wed May 09 2007 10:19 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	vineyardsaker	Wed May 09 2007 10:18 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	ftlaudbob	Wed May 09 2007 10:17 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	MadDog	Wed May 09 2007 10:06 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	nl	Wed May 09 2007 10:02 AM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	HCW	Wed May 09 2007 09:59 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	vineyardsaker	Wed May 09 2007 09:55 AM
ANDREA	NewWatcher	Wed May 09 2007 09:53 AM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	cieldumort	Wed May 09 2007 09:50 AM
Re: Subtropical Storm Andrea	Hurricane29	Wed May 09 2007 09:17 AM
Re: Subtropical Storm Andrea	allan	Wed May 09 2007 09:14 AM
Subtropical Storm Andrea	cieldumort	Wed May 09 2007 09:07 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	cieldumort	Wed May 09 2007 08:45 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	dem05	Wed May 09 2007 08:30 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	Hugh	Wed May 09 2007 07:58 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	MikeC	Wed May 09 2007 07:17 AM
Re: It's trying, it really is....	cieldumort	Wed May 09 2007 02:58 AM
It's trying, it really is....	Bloodstar	Wed May 09 2007 02:22 AM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	scottsvb	Wed May 09 2007 01:42 AM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	cieldumort	Wed May 09 2007 01:11 AM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	Clark	Wed May 09 2007 12:11 AM
Re: subtropical storm andrea	Bloodstar	Wed May 09 2007 12:10 AM
Re: subtropical storm andrea	BillD	Wed May 09 2007 12:04 AM
Re: subtropical storm andrea	dem05	Tue May 08 2007 11:47 PM
Re: subtropical storm andrea	Hugh	Tue May 08 2007 11:24 PM
Re: subtropical storm andrea	dem05	Tue May 08 2007 11:21 PM
Re: subtropical storm andrea	BillD	Tue May 08 2007 10:48 PM
Re: subtropical storm andrea	Doombot!	Tue May 08 2007 10:47 PM
Re: subtropical storm andrea	dem05	Tue May 08 2007 10:17 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	dem05	Tue May 08 2007 10:11 PM
subtropical storm andrea	HanKFranK	Tue May 08 2007 09:58 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	MikeC	Tue May 08 2007 09:23 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	cieldumort	Tue May 08 2007 09:11 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	nc_wx_watcher	Tue May 08 2007 09:06 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	Hugh	Tue May 08 2007 06:45 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	nc_wx_watcher	Tue May 08 2007 06:43 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	Lamar-Plant City	Tue May 08 2007 06:19 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	vineyardsaker	Tue May 08 2007 06:11 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	vineyardsaker	Tue May 08 2007 06:05 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	Lamar-Plant City	Tue May 08 2007 06:03 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	Rich B	Tue May 08 2007 05:32 PM
Re: could there be a storm surge from this system?!	Ricreig	Tue May 08 2007 05:17 PM
could there be a storm surge from this system?!	vineyardsaker	Tue May 08 2007 05:09 PM
Re: so i guess we sit and wait	Ricreig	Tue May 08 2007 04:57 PM
Re: so i guess we sit and wait	Lamar-Plant City	Tue May 08 2007 04:43 PM
Re: so i guess we sit and wait	madmumbler	Tue May 08 2007 04:41 PM
Re: so i guess we sit and wait	cieldumort	Tue May 08 2007 04:33 PM
so i guess we sit and wait	LoisCane	Tue May 08 2007 04:26 PM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	hurricaneguy	Tue May 08 2007 04:08 PM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	hurricaneguy	Tue May 08 2007 04:02 PM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	weather_wise911	Tue May 08 2007 04:01 PM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	Hurricane29	Tue May 08 2007 03:48 PM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	HCW	Tue May 08 2007 03:19 PM
Re: Is the Offshore Storm Subtropical?	MikeC	Tue May 08 2007 02:54 PM
Re: gale 90L	rookie	Tue May 08 2007 02:44 PM
Re: gale 90L	Ricreig	Tue May 08 2007 02:41 PM
Re: gale 90L	madmumbler	Tue May 08 2007 02:38 PM
Re: gale 90L	rookie	Tue May 08 2007 02:36 PM
Re: gale 90L	madmumbler	Tue May 08 2007 02:36 PM
Re: gale 90L	Ed in Va	Tue May 08 2007 02:31 PM
Re: gale 90L	Hurricane29	Tue May 08 2007 02:13 PM
Re: gale 90L	MikeC	Tue May 08 2007 02:02 PM
Re: gale 90L	Storm Hunter	Tue May 08 2007 01:10 PM
Re: gale 90L	rmbjoe1954	Tue May 08 2007 12:56 PM
Re: gale 90L	Rich B	Tue May 08 2007 12:45 PM
Re: gale 90L	Bloodstar	Tue May 08 2007 12:45 PM
Re: gale 90L	Storm Hunter	Tue May 08 2007 11:39 AM
system has every name but subtropical, needs a name	LoisCane	Tue May 08 2007 11:38 AM
Re: gale 90L	madmumbler	Tue May 08 2007 11:26 AM
Re: gale 90L	madmumbler	Tue May 08 2007 11:24 AM
Re: gale 90L	allan	Tue May 08 2007 10:26 AM
Re: gale 90L	Hootowl	Tue May 08 2007 09:38 AM
Re: gale 90L	rookie	Tue May 08 2007 09:30 AM
Re: gale 90L	allan	Tue May 08 2007 09:14 AM
Re: gale 90L	Hugh	Tue May 08 2007 08:05 AM
Re: gale 90L	HanKFranK	Tue May 08 2007 12:12 AM
Re: gale 90L	Lamar-Plant City	Mon May 07 2007 11:34 PM
Re: gale 90L	PutnamGator	Mon May 07 2007 10:57 PM
Re: gale 90L	Storm Hunter	Mon May 07 2007 10:52 PM
Re: gale 90L	HCW	Mon May 07 2007 10:45 PM
Re: gale 90L	ChessieStorm	Mon May 07 2007 10:31 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	dem05	Mon May 07 2007 10:23 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	obxadventurers	Mon May 07 2007 09:37 PM
Re: gale 90L	danielw	Mon May 07 2007 09:34 PM
Re: gale 90L	Storm Hunter	Mon May 07 2007 09:32 PM
Re: gale 90L	dem05	Mon May 07 2007 09:26 PM
Re: gale 90L	Hugh	Mon May 07 2007 08:21 PM
Re: gale 90L	ChessieStorm	Mon May 07 2007 06:38 PM
gale 90L	HanKFranK	Mon May 07 2007 06:03 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	allan	Mon May 07 2007 05:27 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	vineyardsaker	Mon May 07 2007 05:18 PM
two loops	LoisCane	Mon May 07 2007 03:21 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	Hootowl	Mon May 07 2007 02:32 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	Lamar-Plant City	Mon May 07 2007 02:30 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	Storm Hunter	Mon May 07 2007 02:23 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	cyclone_head	Mon May 07 2007 02:12 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	Storm Hunter	Mon May 07 2007 01:56 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	cyclone_head	Mon May 07 2007 01:53 PM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	cyclone_head	Mon May 07 2007 01:38 PM
Re: Is there a chance it could become a subtropical?	Lamar-Plant City	Mon May 07 2007 12:38 PM
Re: Is there a chance it could become a subtropical?	vineyardsaker	Mon May 07 2007 12:29 PM
Re: Is there a chance it could become a subtropical?	StormHound	Mon May 07 2007 12:07 PM
Is there a chance it could become a subtropical?	LoisCane	Mon May 07 2007 11:32 AM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	Lamar-Plant City	Mon May 07 2007 11:01 AM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	AdrianInFlorida	Mon May 07 2007 10:22 AM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	vineyardsaker	Mon May 07 2007 09:34 AM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	NewWatcher	Mon May 07 2007 09:03 AM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	HCW	Mon May 07 2007 08:30 AM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	AdrianInFlorida	Mon May 07 2007 08:23 AM
Re: Nor'Easter Storm near North Carolina Headed Towards Florida	Rich B	Mon May 07 2007 07:59 AM

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