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Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet
      Tue Jul 17 2007 03:25 PM

Lots of talk about the mess in the western Gulf of Mexico, as well as some tiny lower-level spinups in the Caribbean, and a large mostly upper-level low in the central Atlantic. All neat features. Fortunately for those of us who can do without tropical cyclones in the area, surface pressures in all of these regions go the gamut from not low to rather high. Without surface pressures falling rather substantially from these levels, it will be difficult to nearly impossible to get a tropical cyclones birthing in these regions.

Perhaps the feature of most interest of these is this blowup along the coast of eastern Mexico, not only because it is closest to land, but also because there does appear to be a surface trof, however weak, under all of that mess.

To attempt a bit more of a rundown of these features:

Western GOM: Deep tropical moisture fanned by a ULL along the coast. A surface low, perhaps nothing much more than part of the monsoon trof and/or heat low, appears to be well-inland over old Mexico, and an additional surface trof may actually exist under the mess of disorganized showers and storms just offshore a bit. Buoy 42002 located at 25.17N 94.42W is now reporting generally light NNW winds, while Buoy 42055 located at 22.01 N 94.05 W, to 42002's south in the Bay of Campeche, is reporting generally SE winds of about 15-20 knots. At neither of these locations are surface pressures falling, and in fact are rising some and are now relatively high. Any development that might occur here will need several more puzzle pieces coming together just right, first.

In and around the Caribbean: Moderate to high shear abounds. Little mid-level spinups that develop from time to time wash out quickly, as anything closer to the surface gets efficiently mowed by the strong upper level winds and generally moderate to high wind shear in the area.

ULL at about 64W 30N: appears to have worked down to the mid-levels, a little bit, but any surface reflection that may be there is slim to none, and fleeting at best. Detrimental dry air encircles the ULL, and surface pressures in the area are very high. About a snowball's chance in southern Arizona during July of anything happening there.

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* Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Ed DunhamAdministrator Tue Jul 17 2007 03:25 PM
. * * Re: Invest Soon? Storm Hunter   Thu Jul 19 2007 05:11 PM
. * * Re: Invest Soon? Ed in Va   Thu Jul 19 2007 03:55 PM
. * * Re: Invest Soon? ElizabethH   Thu Jul 19 2007 03:13 PM
. * * Re: Invest Soon? Tropics Guy   Thu Jul 19 2007 02:16 PM
. * * Re: Holy cow! Can you smell what the CMC is cooking?! Ed in Va   Thu Jul 19 2007 01:29 PM
. * * Re: Holy cow! Can you smell what the CMC is cooking?! allan   Thu Jul 19 2007 11:17 AM
. * * Re: Holy cow! Can you smell what the CMC is cooking?! Robert   Thu Jul 19 2007 11:15 AM
. * * Re: Holy cow! Can you smell what the CMC is cooking?! Hurricane29   Thu Jul 19 2007 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Holy cow! Can you smell what the CMC is cooking?! allan   Thu Jul 19 2007 04:43 AM
. * * Holy cow! Can you smell what the CMC is cooking?! Doombot!   Thu Jul 19 2007 02:18 AM
. * * Re: Water Temps Storm Hunter   Thu Jul 19 2007 01:42 AM
. * * Water Temps Storm Hunter   Thu Jul 19 2007 12:35 AM
. * * Re: ?Inland Low? Storm Hunter   Wed Jul 18 2007 11:55 PM
. * * ?Inland Low? danielwAdministrator   Wed Jul 18 2007 10:38 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet cieldumort   Wed Jul 18 2007 06:45 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Beach   Wed Jul 18 2007 11:16 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet cieldumort   Wed Jul 18 2007 04:25 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Storm Hunter   Tue Jul 17 2007 11:27 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet cieldumort   Tue Jul 17 2007 03:25 PM
. * * Re: East of Florida nc_tropical_wx79   Tue Jul 17 2007 02:51 PM
. * * East of Florida Beach   Tue Jul 17 2007 01:26 PM
. * * north of hati Robert   Tue Jul 17 2007 12:38 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Robert   Tue Jul 17 2007 12:17 PM
. * * Re: Heads Up?? OUSHAWN   Tue Jul 17 2007 11:29 AM
. * * Re: Heads Up?? cieldumort   Mon Jul 16 2007 07:09 PM
. * * Re: Heads Up?? LoisCane   Mon Jul 16 2007 10:59 AM
. * * Re: Heads Up?? BLTizzle   Sun Jul 15 2007 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Heads Up?? allan   Sun Jul 15 2007 09:06 AM
. * * Heads Up?? danielwAdministrator   Sun Jul 15 2007 08:11 AM
. * * CMC Model danielwAdministrator   Sun Jul 15 2007 05:02 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Robert   Sat Jul 14 2007 05:18 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Robert   Sat Jul 14 2007 04:54 PM
. * * Re: 12n 32w Storm Hunter   Sat Jul 14 2007 02:17 PM
. * * Re: 12n 32w scottsvb   Sat Jul 14 2007 01:44 PM
. * * Re: 12n 32w Robert   Sat Jul 14 2007 12:50 PM
. * * 12n 32w Robert   Sat Jul 14 2007 12:45 PM
. * * Re: Long Range Forecast Storm Hunter   Sat Jul 14 2007 04:03 AM
. * * Re: Long Range Forecast cchsweatherman   Fri Jul 13 2007 10:06 AM
. * * Re: Long Range Forecast Tropics Guy   Fri Jul 13 2007 09:52 AM
. * * Long Range Forecast danielwAdministrator   Fri Jul 13 2007 12:46 AM
. * * Re: blah nc_tropical_wx79   Tue Jul 10 2007 12:49 PM
. * * Re: blah Ed in Va   Tue Jul 10 2007 11:24 AM
. * * Re: blah Lamar-Plant City   Sun Jul 08 2007 08:23 PM
. * * blah HanKFranK   Sun Jul 08 2007 04:25 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet doug   Fri Jul 06 2007 11:25 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Hugh   Fri Jul 06 2007 09:20 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet madmumbler   Fri Jul 06 2007 08:40 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Bloodstar   Fri Jul 06 2007 04:04 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet cieldumort   Fri Jul 06 2007 03:20 AM
. * * Re: One Other Factor... scottsvb   Thu Jul 05 2007 11:06 PM
. * * One Other Factor... Ed DunhamAdministrator   Thu Jul 05 2007 10:16 PM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? danielwAdministrator   Thu Jul 05 2007 09:54 PM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? HanKFranK   Thu Jul 05 2007 07:53 PM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? Bloodstar   Thu Jul 05 2007 04:26 PM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? audienceofone   Thu Jul 05 2007 10:27 AM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? weather_wise911   Thu Jul 05 2007 10:21 AM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? madmumbler   Thu Jul 05 2007 09:35 AM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? cieldumort   Thu Jul 05 2007 02:47 AM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? dem05   Thu Jul 05 2007 02:23 AM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? cieldumort   Thu Jul 05 2007 01:23 AM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? CaneTrackerInSoFl   Thu Jul 05 2007 12:48 AM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? Hugh   Wed Jul 04 2007 04:28 PM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? ftlaudbob   Wed Jul 04 2007 12:52 PM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? Hugh   Wed Jul 04 2007 11:23 AM
. * * Re: 96L Dead?? CaneTrackerInSoFl   Wed Jul 04 2007 11:07 AM
. * * 96L Dead?? weather_wise911   Wed Jul 04 2007 10:39 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet nc_tropical_wx79   Wed Jul 04 2007 09:57 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet nc_tropical_wx79   Wed Jul 04 2007 09:55 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet allan   Wed Jul 04 2007 09:48 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet nc_tropical_wx79   Wed Jul 04 2007 06:38 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet dem05   Wed Jul 04 2007 02:04 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet WeatherNLU   Wed Jul 04 2007 01:18 AM
. * * 96L Preliminary model danielwAdministrator   Wed Jul 04 2007 12:11 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Storm Hunter   Tue Jul 03 2007 11:58 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet cieldumort   Tue Jul 03 2007 11:44 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet HanKFranK   Tue Jul 03 2007 10:12 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Hugh   Tue Jul 03 2007 10:07 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Clark   Tue Jul 03 2007 09:45 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Hugh   Tue Jul 03 2007 09:29 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Lamar-Plant City   Tue Jul 03 2007 06:21 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet HURRICANELONNY   Tue Jul 03 2007 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet LoisCane   Tue Jul 03 2007 03:41 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Rich B   Tue Jul 03 2007 01:31 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet LoisCane   Tue Jul 03 2007 12:42 PM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet ftlaudbob   Tue Jul 03 2007 11:38 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet cieldumort   Tue Jul 03 2007 10:30 AM
. * * Re: 96L INVEST allan   Tue Jul 03 2007 10:11 AM
. * * Re: 96L INVEST weather_wise911   Tue Jul 03 2007 09:45 AM
. * * Re: 96L INVEST Lamar-Plant City   Tue Jul 03 2007 09:22 AM
. * * Re: 96L INVEST allan   Tue Jul 03 2007 07:20 AM
. * * Re: 96L INVEST WeatherNLU   Tue Jul 03 2007 03:48 AM
. * * 96L INVEST danielwAdministrator   Tue Jul 03 2007 02:03 AM
. * * Re: Wave nearing 40W Longitude cieldumort   Tue Jul 03 2007 02:01 AM
. * * Re: Wave nearing 40W Longitude danielwAdministrator   Tue Jul 03 2007 01:14 AM
. * * Re: Wave nearing 40W Longitude Storm Hunter   Tue Jul 03 2007 01:09 AM
. * * Re: Wave nearing 40W Longitude danielwAdministrator   Tue Jul 03 2007 01:05 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet dem05   Tue Jul 03 2007 01:04 AM
. * * Re: Wave nearing 40W Longitude Storm Hunter   Tue Jul 03 2007 12:50 AM
. * * Wave nearing 40W Longitude danielwAdministrator   Tue Jul 03 2007 12:49 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Lamar-Plant City   Tue Jul 03 2007 12:43 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Storm Hunter   Tue Jul 03 2007 12:26 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Storm Hunter   Tue Jul 03 2007 12:11 AM
. * * Re: Waiting...But Not Quite There Yet Clark   Mon Jul 02 2007 09:19 PM

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