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dean and waves to follow
      Sat Aug 18 2007 10:12 AM

i'm still not sure what to make of dean's jogs. don't suspect that the relationships for steering that existed yesterday have changed all that much, as dean has bled some speed and is making up for the due westward motion in the evening. model guidance is more to the left (though some of the upper initializations are called into question for the gfs) overall... same basic camps persist. i don't think we'll see much aside from the nhc official today or tomorrow, with the only interesting side notes being how the hurricane interacts with the caribbean islands. be interesting to see if hispaniola and then maybe cuba do the windfield-warp thing and tug the hurricane north of jamaica.
back behind dean it's hard to make any sense of the wave jumble. the one behind dean slowed down so that it's follower is catching it... with most of its energy shunting ahead off to the north, and the leader tucking up underneath closer to the itcz. it's hard to resolve how this complex mess will initiate another system. the part going by to the north is progged to get north of the islands and interact with the upper trough off the east coast, split some, and have a bit of its energy drift towards the bahamas. cmc makes a storm out of this (has for days), while the other globals see just an inverted trough. none of the models buy much into the leader wave east of the islands, with outflow from dean washing over it. the itcz bump further east from the trailer wave seems to spawn another system on the gfs suite, though, and that creates another storm on it by next weekend. hard to trust exactly what the gfs is thinking from there.. it moves nw towards a then large trough near the east coast, and ends up in the gulf by labor day weekend. of course these individual features can't be trusted right now, only watched for persistence. the niggardly way the gfs has suggested tropical activity this season and it's seeming enthusiasm for sending more to the table has me thinking that there will be something there regardless of whether the details are close to right.
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* Hurricane Dean Reaches Category 4 Strength MikeCAdministrator Sat Aug 18 2007 10:12 AM
. * * Dean and the Upper Level Pattern dem05   Sat Aug 18 2007 11:12 AM
. * * Re: Hail ChessieStorm   Sat Aug 18 2007 11:07 AM
. * * Re: Hail weather999   Sat Aug 18 2007 11:05 AM
. * * Re: Hail OUSHAWN   Sat Aug 18 2007 10:58 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Dean Reaches Category 4 Strength seabass   Sat Aug 18 2007 10:53 AM
. * * Re: Keeping Quiet NewWatcher   Sat Aug 18 2007 10:51 AM
. * * Keeping Quiet mikethewreck   Sat Aug 18 2007 10:48 AM
. * * Re: Hail scottsvb   Sat Aug 18 2007 10:43 AM
. * * Dean charlottefl   Sat Aug 18 2007 10:42 AM
. * * Re: Hail Hugh   Sat Aug 18 2007 10:36 AM
. * * Re: Hail Thunderbird12   Sat Aug 18 2007 10:35 AM
. * * Re: Hail MikeCAdministrator   Sat Aug 18 2007 10:33 AM
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. * * dean and waves to follow HanKFranK   Sat Aug 18 2007 10:12 AM
. * * Re: 00Z Models h2ocean   Sat Aug 18 2007 09:58 AM
. * * Re: Hail Thunderbird12   Sat Aug 18 2007 09:51 AM
. * * Weakening? danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 18 2007 09:51 AM
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. * * Re: Hail Random Chaos   Sat Aug 18 2007 09:47 AM
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. * * Hail danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 18 2007 09:31 AM
. * * Re: West Texas update Thunderbird12   Sat Aug 18 2007 09:29 AM
. * * Re: West Texas update flanewscameraman   Sat Aug 18 2007 09:19 AM
. * * Re: West Texas update charlottefl   Sat Aug 18 2007 09:18 AM
. * * Re: West Texas update MikeCAdministrator   Sat Aug 18 2007 09:12 AM
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. * * West Texas update mp3reed   Sat Aug 18 2007 08:43 AM
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. * * 00Z Models Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Sat Aug 18 2007 03:26 AM
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. * * HDOBs and Vortex Messages danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 18 2007 01:28 AM
. * * Re: Dean Random Chaos   Sat Aug 18 2007 01:26 AM
. * * Re: Dean Storm Hunter   Sat Aug 18 2007 01:24 AM
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. * * Re: Dean Reaches Category 4 Strength Miss Christine   Sat Aug 18 2007 12:28 AM
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. * * Dean danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 18 2007 12:05 AM
. * * Re: Dean Reaches Category 4 Strength danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 17 2007 11:59 PM
. * * Re: Dean Reaches Category 4 Strength StrmTrckrMiami   Fri Aug 17 2007 11:58 PM
. * * Re: Dean Reaches Category 4 Strength Mike N   Fri Aug 17 2007 11:48 PM
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. * * Re: Dean Reaches Category 4 Strength jbmusic   Fri Aug 17 2007 11:43 PM
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. * * Re: Dean Reaches Category 4 Strength Random Chaos   Fri Aug 17 2007 11:31 PM
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