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Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica
      Sun Aug 19 2007 11:33 PM

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Lois,

I respect your opinion, however must differ wholehardedly regarding your take on the Canadian Model. Polar opposite from the 'ol NOGAPS ( sadly neutered for several years now ), CMC strikes me as a tropical cyclone model on "crack" ( no offense to our Hudson Bay neighbors to the north ). To be fair, often times an Atlantic system WILL form and in fact picked up by the CMC model. That said, quite common an occurance would be the other 79 tropical systems forecasted to form by CMC simply only to end up as "ghost cyclones". For whatever the reason, I have found early season and end of season formation picked up with somewhat better accuracy by CMC.

In object fairness, I must admit that CMC has for several runs now been forecasting "the son of Dean" to form east of Florida, and then to slam into Central ( and now Southern Fla ). Up to today, there has been only slight hints of agreement from some of the other models, yet today a greater admission by some other models of at least a significant inverted trough approaching from the SE. Of course on satellite, one cannot deny that what appears to be 14 3/4 vorticity points all contained in one massive high amplitude wave, is in fact approaching 60W with some serious 29C octane fuel dead ahead. Even the European is "hinting" at something around days 6-10 near Fla.

As a fellow "model monger", I too check the CMC each run. I am looking for consistancy of runs, followed by some consensus by the other models, especially the UK and/or European. GFS has started to drop what it was detecting as a developing system east of Trinidad ( and there is a legitimate vort. here too ). Given the outflow shear from Dean, it would appear reasonable that something "could" form in the more convective area farther to the north where CMC is forecasting. Guess a few days to come will prove whether or not this "outlier" model was on to something or not. My guess would be to lean conservatively towards a strong wave to approach Florida in the 4-7 days to come, perhaps with some weak 1010mb spin-up towards the end of the cycle. Now that i've erred on the side of "blah", watch the 0Z runs tonight have four major models bringing the "son of Dean" upon Florida's doorstep!

Andy




Here in Miami, the winds have been strong today. We have also had a greater increase of cooler weather. My question is, is this a part of Dean? I would doubt that, however the radar here does show some sort of storm that is forming and is going to hit us in 4-7 days. Would you mind if you could tell me a bit more about this "storm" that you can see on the radar or CMC? What do you see happening? We do have some strange weather here going on right now.

Another Question, when I am looking at the radar here, what is that wierd blue thing that extends from Miami to Ft Lauderdale Area and goes off to sea?

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Edited by StrmTrckrMiami (Sun Aug 19 2007 11:35 PM)

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* Dean Approaches Jamaica MikeCAdministrator Sun Aug 19 2007 11:33 PM
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. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica OUSHAWN   Mon Aug 20 2007 02:24 AM
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. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Mike N   Mon Aug 20 2007 02:15 AM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Storm Hunter   Mon Aug 20 2007 02:03 AM
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. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Texas Cane Tracker   Mon Aug 20 2007 01:14 AM
. * * Re: FL Storms OUSHAWN   Mon Aug 20 2007 01:11 AM
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. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica wxman007   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:59 AM
. * * Re: FL Storms nc_tropical_wx79   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:58 AM
. * * FL Storms danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:53 AM
. * * Re: Weird Blue thing StrmTrckrMiami   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:51 AM
. * * Re: Weird Blue thing Random Chaos   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:46 AM
. * * Re: Weird Blue thing StrmTrckrMiami   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:33 AM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica qtpa2ts   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:31 AM
. * * Re: Weird Blue thing BillD   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:30 AM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:29 AM
. * * Re: Weird Blue thing Storm Hunter   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:23 AM
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. * * Weird Blue thing danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:18 AM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Random Chaos   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica weathernet   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica StrmTrckrMiami   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:11 AM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica craigm   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:05 AM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Random Chaos   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:03 AM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica StrmTrckrMiami   Mon Aug 20 2007 12:00 AM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica qtpa2ts   Sun Aug 19 2007 11:56 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Random Chaos   Sun Aug 19 2007 11:52 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica weathernet   Sun Aug 19 2007 11:51 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica StrmTrckrMiami   Sun Aug 19 2007 11:46 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica madmumbler   Sun Aug 19 2007 11:43 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica StrmTrckrMiami   Sun Aug 19 2007 11:33 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Hugh   Sun Aug 19 2007 11:26 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica weathernet   Sun Aug 19 2007 11:20 PM
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. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica flahurricane   Sun Aug 19 2007 11:17 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Hugh   Sun Aug 19 2007 11:01 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica GuppieGrouper   Sun Aug 19 2007 10:54 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica OUSHAWN   Sun Aug 19 2007 10:47 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Random Chaos   Sun Aug 19 2007 10:43 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica anomaly18   Sun Aug 19 2007 10:41 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica LoisCane   Sun Aug 19 2007 09:45 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica WeatherNLU   Sun Aug 19 2007 09:35 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica OUSHAWN   Sun Aug 19 2007 08:57 PM
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. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Storm Hunter   Sun Aug 19 2007 08:18 PM
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. * * Re: Wave CMC modeled rmbjoe1954   Sun Aug 19 2007 08:03 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Storm Hunter   Sun Aug 19 2007 08:03 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica WeatherNLU   Sun Aug 19 2007 07:55 PM
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. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Hugh   Sun Aug 19 2007 07:41 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica LoisCane   Sun Aug 19 2007 07:35 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica WeatherNLU   Sun Aug 19 2007 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Storm Hunter   Sun Aug 19 2007 07:09 PM
. * * Re: current Kingston weather Hugh   Sun Aug 19 2007 07:05 PM
. * * current Kingston weather lunkerhunter   Sun Aug 19 2007 07:01 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Random Chaos   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:42 PM
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. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica anomaly18   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:38 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Hugh   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:30 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica BillD   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:26 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica anomaly18   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:22 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica dem05   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:19 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica OUSHAWN   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:17 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Random Chaos   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:14 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Hugh   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:10 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Nathan   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:07 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Random Chaos   Sun Aug 19 2007 06:01 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Random Chaos   Sun Aug 19 2007 04:04 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica OUSHAWN   Sun Aug 19 2007 03:53 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Random Chaos   Sun Aug 19 2007 03:48 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Random Chaos   Sun Aug 19 2007 03:20 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica MikeCAdministrator   Sun Aug 19 2007 03:18 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Clark   Sun Aug 19 2007 03:13 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica dem05   Sun Aug 19 2007 03:10 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Hugh   Sun Aug 19 2007 03:06 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Nathan   Sun Aug 19 2007 03:02 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica weather999   Sun Aug 19 2007 02:57 PM
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. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica rmbjoe1954   Sun Aug 19 2007 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Lee-Delray   Sun Aug 19 2007 01:48 PM
. * * Re: Dean Approaches Jamaica Ed in Va   Sun Aug 19 2007 01:43 PM
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