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Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas
      Sun Sep 09 2007 02:56 AM

Where's Gabrielle? Seems like everyone is having trouble with it tonight.

The 11pm NHC discussion mentioned that the low level center appeared to be displaced from a mid-level center that spun-up in the convective flare-up earlier this evening. The latest recon fix confirmed this. Satellite isn't a good tool to be using for finding a center at night given these considerations; you simply cannot see the low-levels. Even the available radars -- Wilmington and Morehead City, NC -- are looking at 11000ft+ and 6000ft+, respectively. Despite that, they do show the remnant midlevel circulation to the WSW/SW of the actual low-level center, just now coming into view on Morehead City radar and as fixed by recon lately.

As for QuikSCAT -- that pass is a few hours old and the high-res pass and ambiguities both suggest the center is in the NE area of that broader circulation, which would be consistent back to around 7p ET when the pass captured the storm.

Is it possible that the low level center can or will reform underneath that convective flareup? Perhaps. But, it has not yet done so and the convective flareup -- and associated mid-level center -- appear to be weakening from latest radar trends. Overall, focus on the recon fixes and what radar tell you before anything from satellite, especially given the eclipse period of the satellite during this time of the evening.

Hope this helps clear the confusion on Gabrielle.

NOTE on 90L: please take all 90L discussion to the Storm Forum and Forecast Lounge for now. Let's keep things on topic for our landfalling storm in this thread; 90L is currently broad, disorganized, and there's not a lot to suggest development from it in the next day or two. If you'd like to discuss it as a future threat, please check out the thread in the Forecast Lounge. Once Gabrielle moves out or development looks more likely from 90L (currently it is fairly low on the development scale), we'll open things up a bit more. Thanks for your cooperation.

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* Tropical Storm Gabrielle heads for North Carolina MikeCAdministrator Sun Sep 09 2007 02:56 AM
. * * Other Systems danielwAdministrator   Sun Sep 09 2007 12:39 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas craigm   Sun Sep 09 2007 09:56 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas syfr   Sun Sep 09 2007 07:11 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Storm Hunter   Sun Sep 09 2007 03:21 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Clark   Sun Sep 09 2007 02:56 AM
. * * Re: 90L Storm Hunter   Sun Sep 09 2007 02:51 AM
. * * 90L ltpat228   Sun Sep 09 2007 02:16 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Random Chaos   Sun Sep 09 2007 02:04 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Storm Hunter   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:59 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Beach   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:56 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas flahurricane   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:47 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas ltpat228   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:36 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas LoisCane   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:33 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Storm Hunter   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:33 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Random Chaos   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:26 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas nc_tropical_wx79   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:23 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Random Chaos   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:19 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Storm Hunter   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:17 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas nc_tropical_wx79   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:14 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas flahurricane   Sun Sep 09 2007 01:09 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Beach   Sat Sep 08 2007 11:30 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas ltpat228   Sat Sep 08 2007 11:29 PM
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. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Lamar-Plant City   Sat Sep 08 2007 11:15 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas nc_tropical_wx79   Sat Sep 08 2007 11:13 PM
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. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas madmumbler   Sat Sep 08 2007 05:41 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas cieldumort   Sat Sep 08 2007 02:56 PM
. * * Re: take, etc. weather_wise911   Sat Sep 08 2007 02:52 PM
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. * * Re: take, etc. weather999   Sat Sep 08 2007 01:49 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas scottsvb   Sat Sep 08 2007 12:26 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas Lamar-Plant City   Sat Sep 08 2007 11:53 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Storm Gabrielle Forms Southeast of the Carolinas MM   Sat Sep 08 2007 10:56 AM
. * * Re: take, etc. Ed in Va   Sat Sep 08 2007 10:16 AM
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