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Rafael continues to decouple over the Gulf. Meanwhile we are keeping a watch on Invest 98L around the Bahamas and potentially a new low forming in the Caribbean.
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 31 (Milton) , Major: 31 (Milton) Florida - Any: 31 (Milton) Major: 31 (Milton)
26.3N 91.9W
Wind: 40MPH
Pres: 1003mb
Moving:
Nnw at 3 mph
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Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast.
      Wed Sep 19 2007 09:33 AM

Looking at sat. loops this a.m. ( both IR and WV ), this is so far certainly not looking tropcal, given the wrap around effect being caused by the upper low. That said, given time I see no way that a warm core reflection at the surface does not eventually occur. Question, as always continues to be when and where. More and more however I am coming to the conclusion that the models have been fairly impressive in their longer range ability to pick up some type of cyclongenesis event. Basically though, I am getting to the point of seeing some model concensus, and just determining that the time range is more often than not, a good deal farther away than what the models indicate. I too believe that perhaps a low level reflection may be occuring farther east than originally thought, and again later than anticipated as well.


Finally, in defense of StrTrackerMiami, the following was written by another post:

...I just want to see what a tropical depression looks like on my below-normal rain gauge in west central Florida. You are indeed crazy...I wish I had a time machine so I could send you to a trailer park in Florida City on August 24, 1992...you would never wishcast again....

Lets all keep in mind that this forum consists of those of us who range in academic and/or historic meteorlogical knowledge that ranges widely from bonified MET's to simply those who are weather enthusiasts. That said, all of us who participate by writing posts, or even those simply on the "sidelines" who read the posts, are ALL very interested in the weather and tropical cyclones, at the very least. For the sake of intellegent communication as well as moderation in the acceptance of others' views, let us at least respect one distinction between "shear fascination" and "wish-casting". For one to predict cyclogenesis and/or storm landfall, based upon a pure guess or "want" - this would be wish-casting. Someone who would wish to see the effects of a hurricane, is not wish-casting...., nor are they crazy ( death, injury, and destruction aside of course ). Whether or not moderators may wish to re-direct such opinion to another forum is their business, however the fascination of being able to actually witness the effects of a hurricane are what drive many to Meteorology as a hobby or a proffession. I for one, have chased hurricanes for years, and do so soley for the shear awe of that which I am able to witness ( and hopefully live to tell ). I am intellegent enough to know my limits of risk, and certainly do not wish any harm to anyone. My being at the point of landfall however, has no impact on the storms' impact on others, nor does one have anything to do with each other. Finally, I certainely have very mixed feelings regarding a dangerous landfall event where I live, but once again, I have no "powers" to impact such an event from happening.

So to this I can tell you, after Andrew, Charlie, Hugo, and on...., I do know the likes of the '26 storm. Do I wish it upon anyone else? Heck no. Whether or not I, or anyone elso would like to witness such an event ( safely ), is their business.

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* Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. MikeCAdministrator Wed Sep 19 2007 09:33 AM
. * * Re: 93L and 93U pcola   Thu Sep 20 2007 06:47 AM
. * * Re: 93L and 93U madmumbler   Thu Sep 20 2007 06:47 AM
. * * Re: 93L and 93U danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 20 2007 12:47 AM
. * * Re: 93L and 93U Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 12:16 AM
. * * 93L and 93U danielwAdministrator   Wed Sep 19 2007 11:46 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 19 2007 11:31 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. flahurricane   Wed Sep 19 2007 11:07 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Hurricane29   Wed Sep 19 2007 10:51 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. SirCane   Wed Sep 19 2007 10:42 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. cieldumort   Wed Sep 19 2007 10:40 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 19 2007 10:35 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Hugh   Wed Sep 19 2007 10:11 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. dem05   Wed Sep 19 2007 10:04 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. weathernet   Wed Sep 19 2007 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. craigm   Wed Sep 19 2007 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Old Sailor   Wed Sep 19 2007 09:05 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Rasvar   Wed Sep 19 2007 08:40 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. pcola   Wed Sep 19 2007 08:16 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. OUSHAWN   Wed Sep 19 2007 08:08 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. h2ocean   Wed Sep 19 2007 08:02 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 19 2007 07:49 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. tekkrite   Wed Sep 19 2007 07:40 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. SirCane   Wed Sep 19 2007 07:06 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Hugh   Wed Sep 19 2007 06:53 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. pcola   Wed Sep 19 2007 06:23 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 19 2007 04:35 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. OUSHAWN   Wed Sep 19 2007 04:23 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. allan   Wed Sep 19 2007 04:21 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. doug   Wed Sep 19 2007 04:07 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. ChessieStorm   Wed Sep 19 2007 04:03 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. OUSHAWN   Wed Sep 19 2007 03:22 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. anomaly18   Wed Sep 19 2007 03:10 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. allan   Wed Sep 19 2007 02:50 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. OUSHAWN   Wed Sep 19 2007 02:46 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. scottsvb   Wed Sep 19 2007 02:35 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. madmumbler   Wed Sep 19 2007 02:26 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. doug   Wed Sep 19 2007 02:26 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. allan   Wed Sep 19 2007 02:23 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Fletch   Wed Sep 19 2007 02:21 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. metwannabe   Wed Sep 19 2007 02:20 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. DrewC   Wed Sep 19 2007 02:17 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Marknole   Wed Sep 19 2007 01:53 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. WeatherNut   Wed Sep 19 2007 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. metwannabe   Wed Sep 19 2007 01:45 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. cieldumort   Wed Sep 19 2007 01:41 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. craigm   Wed Sep 19 2007 01:30 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 19 2007 12:38 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. StrmTrckrMiami   Wed Sep 19 2007 12:25 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. OUSHAWN   Wed Sep 19 2007 12:23 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. scottsvb   Wed Sep 19 2007 12:17 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 19 2007 11:38 AM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. charlottefl   Wed Sep 19 2007 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. OUSHAWN   Wed Sep 19 2007 10:23 AM
. * * Models weatherguy08   Wed Sep 19 2007 10:22 AM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. weathernet   Wed Sep 19 2007 09:33 AM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. NewWatcher   Wed Sep 19 2007 08:16 AM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. allan   Wed Sep 19 2007 08:05 AM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. flarrfan   Wed Sep 19 2007 06:30 AM
. * * Re: Bahamas Observations-Last hour cieldumort   Wed Sep 19 2007 04:04 AM
. * * Re: Bahamas Observations-Last hour scottsvb   Wed Sep 19 2007 03:24 AM
. * * Re: Bahamas Observations-Last hour cieldumort   Wed Sep 19 2007 03:14 AM
. * * Re: Bahamas Observations-Last hour dem05   Wed Sep 19 2007 02:42 AM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Davida G   Wed Sep 19 2007 01:32 AM
. * * Bahamas Observations-Last hour danielwAdministrator   Wed Sep 19 2007 01:23 AM
. * * Re: Watching 93L Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 19 2007 01:07 AM
. * * Re: Watching 93L danielwAdministrator   Wed Sep 19 2007 12:58 AM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. LoisCane   Wed Sep 19 2007 12:25 AM
. * * Ingrid Showing a Pulse this Evening OrlandoHurricane   Tue Sep 18 2007 10:51 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Storm Hunter   Tue Sep 18 2007 09:50 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Old Sailor   Tue Sep 18 2007 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Storm Hunter   Tue Sep 18 2007 09:35 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Robert   Tue Sep 18 2007 09:09 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. debris   Tue Sep 18 2007 08:59 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. StrmTrckrMiami   Tue Sep 18 2007 08:53 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. StrmTrckrMiami   Tue Sep 18 2007 08:36 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Storm Hunter   Tue Sep 18 2007 08:36 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. OUSHAWN   Tue Sep 18 2007 08:32 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. OUSHAWN   Tue Sep 18 2007 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. StrmTrckrMiami   Tue Sep 18 2007 08:21 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Storm Hunter   Tue Sep 18 2007 08:17 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Robert   Tue Sep 18 2007 07:18 PM
. * * Western Bahamas Buoy lunkerhunter   Tue Sep 18 2007 06:18 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. OUSHAWN   Tue Sep 18 2007 05:53 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. Storm Hunter   Tue Sep 18 2007 05:27 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. allan   Tue Sep 18 2007 04:54 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas allan   Tue Sep 18 2007 03:24 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas scottsvb   Tue Sep 18 2007 03:24 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas scottsvb   Tue Sep 18 2007 03:21 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas Storm Hunter   Tue Sep 18 2007 03:17 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas Storm Hunter   Tue Sep 18 2007 03:03 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas Storm Hunter   Tue Sep 18 2007 03:00 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas allan   Tue Sep 18 2007 02:49 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas Tony Cristaldi   Tue Sep 18 2007 02:47 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas doug   Tue Sep 18 2007 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Watching 93L close to the Florida east Coast. hurricane expert   Tue Sep 18 2007 02:29 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas Storm Hunter   Tue Sep 18 2007 02:21 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas ftlaudbob   Tue Sep 18 2007 02:19 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas scottsvb   Tue Sep 18 2007 02:10 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas Hurricane29   Tue Sep 18 2007 01:37 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas hurricane expert   Tue Sep 18 2007 01:24 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas typhoon_tip   Tue Sep 18 2007 12:45 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas allan   Tue Sep 18 2007 12:43 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas craigm   Tue Sep 18 2007 12:17 PM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas allan   Tue Sep 18 2007 11:47 AM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas doug   Tue Sep 18 2007 11:42 AM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas jojoindian6   Tue Sep 18 2007 10:32 AM
. * * Re: No Storms, But Watching a Few Areas weathernet   Tue Sep 18 2007 08:41 AM

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