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Re: Gulf of Mexico System
      Thu Sep 20 2007 10:57 PM

To answer you question, the NHC has had great reason to investigate and take interest in this location for possible development today. We had an upper level low that became vertically stacked to the surface. Since tropical systems are warm core surface features and ULL are cold core features at the upper levels...This stacking from top to bottom allowed for the possibility that the ULL could transition down to the surface and convert from a cold core system to a sutropical (Hybrid warm/cold core system) to one that was tropical and based at the surface. Overall, this type of transition takes a couple days to become fully complete, so it requires special circumstances over time to get the proper stacking and to make it last long enough.

When recon was tasked to fly out there, and everyone (including me...please see earlier posts on this thread) were more interested in this sytem...it was due to this stacking. That said, late afternoon, the ULL has moved off to the NE and the sufrace feature decoupled. They are not vertically ctacked any longer since the surface feature got left behind. The overall synopsis changes to an environment where the ULL is in control, and now has the potential to provide less than fovorable conditions. After the de-coupling takes place, a lotof energy is lost from one system or the other...When that happens, the ULL always wins.


Edited by dem05 (Thu Sep 20 2007 11:10 PM)

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* TD 10 Drifts Inland - Nothing Else of Significance MikeCAdministrator Thu Sep 20 2007 10:57 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System WeatherNut   Sat Sep 22 2007 10:29 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System madmumbler   Sat Sep 22 2007 08:49 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Beach   Sat Sep 22 2007 08:34 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Colleen A.   Sat Sep 22 2007 01:59 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System allan   Sat Sep 22 2007 12:03 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 11:57 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System dem05   Fri Sep 21 2007 11:25 PM
. * * Re: WJHG-TV Live Stream Kal   Fri Sep 21 2007 11:16 PM
. * * Re: WJHG-TV Live Stream Kal   Fri Sep 21 2007 11:11 PM
. * * Re: WJHG-TV Live Stream Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:54 PM
. * * Re: WJHG-TV Live Stream Hugh   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:48 PM
. * * Re: WJHG-TV Live Stream pcola   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:48 PM
. * * Re: WJHG-TV Live Stream Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:43 PM
. * * Re: WJHG-TV Live Stream Hugh   Fri Sep 21 2007 09:52 PM
. * * Re: WJHG-TV Live Stream Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 09:47 PM
. * * Re: WJHG-TV Live Stream Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 08:40 PM
. * * Re: Onshore now? Trekman   Fri Sep 21 2007 08:11 PM
. * * Tropical Depression Ten making landfall near Fort Walton Beach Hugh   Fri Sep 21 2007 07:52 PM
. * * Re: Onshore now? pcola   Fri Sep 21 2007 07:31 PM
. * * Re: Onshore now? Hugh   Fri Sep 21 2007 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Onshore now? Genesis   Fri Sep 21 2007 07:15 PM
. * * Re: Onshore now? Hugh   Fri Sep 21 2007 07:01 PM
. * * Onshore now? Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 21 2007 06:46 PM
. * * WJHG-TV Live Stream wxman007   Fri Sep 21 2007 06:33 PM
. * * Re: TD 10 Trekman   Fri Sep 21 2007 06:16 PM
. * * Re: TD 10 pcola   Fri Sep 21 2007 04:50 PM
. * * Re: TD 10 wxman007   Fri Sep 21 2007 04:32 PM
. * * Re: TD 10 mbfly   Fri Sep 21 2007 04:21 PM
. * * Re: Other areas Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 04:14 PM
. * * Re: Other areas weather999   Fri Sep 21 2007 04:07 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 10 danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:58 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 10 Clark   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:58 PM
. * * TD 10 danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:53 PM
. * * Re: Other areas Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:40 PM
. * * Other areas danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:36 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 10 Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:35 PM
. * * Tropical Depression 10 danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:33 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:26 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico Clark   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:23 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:20 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico La Nimo   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:17 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico mbfly   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:07 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico HCW   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:07 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico WeatherNut   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:05 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico mbfly   Fri Sep 21 2007 02:56 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico pcola   Fri Sep 21 2007 02:39 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 02:08 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico Trekman   Fri Sep 21 2007 01:52 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico OUSHAWN   Fri Sep 21 2007 12:22 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 10 Forms in Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Fri Sep 21 2007 12:14 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Wingman51   Fri Sep 21 2007 11:52 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 11:40 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System craigm   Fri Sep 21 2007 11:15 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System mbfly   Fri Sep 21 2007 11:10 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Ed in Va   Fri Sep 21 2007 11:03 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System cieldumort   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:59 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Lee-Delray   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:59 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Trekman   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:58 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:58 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Colleen A.   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:54 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System mbfly   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:31 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:22 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 10:04 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System craigm   Fri Sep 21 2007 09:07 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System OUSHAWN   Fri Sep 21 2007 08:09 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System cieldumort   Fri Sep 21 2007 03:25 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System flahurricane   Fri Sep 21 2007 02:18 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 02:14 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System cieldumort   Fri Sep 21 2007 02:11 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System charlottefl   Fri Sep 21 2007 02:05 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Fri Sep 21 2007 01:46 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Clark   Fri Sep 21 2007 12:10 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System dem05   Fri Sep 21 2007 12:02 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 11:40 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Clark   Thu Sep 20 2007 11:25 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 11:10 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System dem05   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:57 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Hugh   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:51 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System dem05   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:48 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Hugh   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:33 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:28 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System dem05   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:26 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Hugh   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:23 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System allan   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:21 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Hurricane29   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:05 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System scottsvb   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:01 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 09:45 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System weather_wise911   Thu Sep 20 2007 08:05 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System cieldumort   Thu Sep 20 2007 06:27 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System dem05   Thu Sep 20 2007 06:26 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System ChessieStorm   Thu Sep 20 2007 06:20 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Lamar-Plant City   Thu Sep 20 2007 06:04 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 04:23 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 04:16 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 03:55 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 03:35 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System scottsvb   Thu Sep 20 2007 03:07 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 03:01 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System cieldumort   Thu Sep 20 2007 02:40 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 02:28 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System doug   Thu Sep 20 2007 02:20 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System srquirrely   Thu Sep 20 2007 02:11 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 02:07 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System ElizabethH   Thu Sep 20 2007 02:00 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 01:46 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 20 2007 01:31 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System scottsvb   Thu Sep 20 2007 01:15 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System metwannabe   Thu Sep 20 2007 12:18 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System scottsvb   Thu Sep 20 2007 12:06 PM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Hurricane29   Thu Sep 20 2007 11:35 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System OUSHAWN   Thu Sep 20 2007 11:05 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System dem05   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:39 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System craigm   Thu Sep 20 2007 10:30 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System doug   Thu Sep 20 2007 09:06 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System Ed in Va   Thu Sep 20 2007 09:03 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System OUSHAWN   Thu Sep 20 2007 08:20 AM
. * * Re: Gulf of Mexico System mikethewreck   Thu Sep 20 2007 07:05 AM

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