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92L now up to a 60% chance for development. Recon out there but just under the threshhold for classification, may become a TD later today.
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Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico
      Wed Sep 26 2007 07:04 PM

Looks like Karen's depth has possibly allowed her to get tugged farther to the north than both forecast and recently analyzed. On conventional satellite, especially using the FT & RB enhancements, it is possible to discern what may be that incipient eye that keeps trying to form throughout the day today, up around a full lat north of where she should be based on the most recent extrap and official NHC forecast. This conclusion is backed up further by the JSL, which shows banding features cyclonically curved around this, what is quite possibly the actual COC.

With recon closing in, we should have this question answered at least somewhat definitively shortly here tonight.

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* Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico MikeCAdministrator Wed Sep 26 2007 07:04 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico weathernet   Fri Sep 28 2007 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Lee-Delray   Fri Sep 28 2007 08:11 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico flanewscameraman   Fri Sep 28 2007 06:06 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Fri Sep 28 2007 05:09 AM
. * * Re: Lorenzo becomes a hurricane Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 27 2007 10:59 PM
. * * Lorenzo becomes a hurricane Rabbit   Thu Sep 27 2007 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico craigm   Thu Sep 27 2007 06:01 PM
. * * next week HanKFranK   Thu Sep 27 2007 05:52 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Lee-Delray   Thu Sep 27 2007 04:37 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Ed in Va   Thu Sep 27 2007 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Steve H1   Thu Sep 27 2007 04:08 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Bloodstar   Thu Sep 27 2007 03:35 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Thu Sep 27 2007 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico allan   Thu Sep 27 2007 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Excerpts craigm   Thu Sep 27 2007 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Excerpts Storm Surfer   Thu Sep 27 2007 12:44 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Excerpts cieldumort   Thu Sep 27 2007 01:35 AM
. * * Discussion Excerpts danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 27 2007 01:10 AM
. * * Re: Karen Vortex Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 11:17 PM
. * * Karen Vortex danielwAdministrator   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Lee-Delray   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:45 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:35 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico craigm   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:00 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 07:04 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 StrmTrckrMiami   Wed Sep 26 2007 05:51 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 Fletch   Wed Sep 26 2007 05:26 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 flnelson   Wed Sep 26 2007 04:56 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 03:33 PM
. * * 98L, Karen, and TD13 Bloodstar   Wed Sep 26 2007 02:52 PM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? WeatherNut   Wed Sep 26 2007 02:27 PM
. * * Re: Explanation Please Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 02:04 PM
. * * Explanation Please Beach   Wed Sep 26 2007 01:16 PM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? LoisCane   Wed Sep 26 2007 12:24 PM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 11:41 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 11:31 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? OUSHAWN   Wed Sep 26 2007 10:58 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 26 2007 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 26 2007 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? Lee-Delray   Wed Sep 26 2007 09:48 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? craigm   Wed Sep 26 2007 09:39 AM
. * * Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? punkyg   Wed Sep 26 2007 09:15 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico craigm   Wed Sep 26 2007 07:24 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 04:01 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Rabbit   Wed Sep 26 2007 03:33 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 03:26 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Rabbit   Wed Sep 26 2007 03:11 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 01:58 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico weathernet   Wed Sep 26 2007 01:06 AM

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