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Re: Discussion Excerpts
      Thu Sep 27 2007 01:35 AM

Here Here on the Blake descriptions! Some of the best out of NHC in the last discussions for both Karen & 13L, imho.

Does look like we might, sort of, have Karen getting the official bump now, regardless, and won't have to wait for the reanalysis to include the upgrade. To quote Blake for the benefit of others coming into this thread without a reference point, here is a partial quote from the 11PM Karen discussion:
Quote:

1100 PM EDT WED SEP 26 2007
A NOAA HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE HAS BEEN CONDUCTING A RESEARCH MISSION
THIS EVENING AND HAS FOUND AN UNUSUAL WIND STRUCTURE WITH KAREN.
SFMR DATA SHOW THAT THE STORM HAS A VERY LARGE WIND FIELD...WITH
ONE PEAK IN SURFACE WINDS ABOUT 105 NM AWAY FROM THE CENTER AND
ANOTHER ONE AT A MORE TYPICAL DISTANCE. IN ADDITION...DROPSONDE AND
SFMR DATA SUGGEST THAT THE FLIGHT LEVEL CENTER IS DISPLACED TO THE
NORTH AND EAST OF THE SURFACE CENTER...LIKELY DUE TO SOUTHWESTERLY
WIND SHEAR. THE MAXIMUM FLIGHT LEVEL WIND REPORTED WAS 69 KT...WITH
A PEAK SURFACE VALUE OF 62 KT REPORTED TWICE...NOT QUITE HURRICANE
STRENGTH. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE DEGRADED SATELLITE APPEARANCE FROM
EARLIER TODAY...KAREN WAS ALMOST CERTAINLY A HURRICANE THEN...AND
THIS LIKELIHOOD MAY BE REFLECTED IN THE FINAL BEST TRACK FOR THE
SYSTEM. AT THIS TIME...THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS HELD AT 60 KT FOR
THIS ADVISORY.




Karen-
NRL: "12LKAREN.65kts-995mb-128N-446W"
CIMSS: "Hurricane 12L"


In the end, however, as Blake states, Karen may not be able to attain hurricane strength again in the face of ongoing and upcoming shear.

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* Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico MikeCAdministrator Thu Sep 27 2007 01:35 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico weathernet   Fri Sep 28 2007 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Lee-Delray   Fri Sep 28 2007 08:11 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico flanewscameraman   Fri Sep 28 2007 06:06 AM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Hurricane Lorenzo Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Fri Sep 28 2007 05:09 AM
. * * Re: Lorenzo becomes a hurricane Storm Hunter   Thu Sep 27 2007 10:59 PM
. * * Lorenzo becomes a hurricane Rabbit   Thu Sep 27 2007 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico craigm   Thu Sep 27 2007 06:01 PM
. * * next week HanKFranK   Thu Sep 27 2007 05:52 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Lee-Delray   Thu Sep 27 2007 04:37 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Ed in Va   Thu Sep 27 2007 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Steve H1   Thu Sep 27 2007 04:08 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Bloodstar   Thu Sep 27 2007 03:35 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Thu Sep 27 2007 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico allan   Thu Sep 27 2007 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Excerpts craigm   Thu Sep 27 2007 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Excerpts Storm Surfer   Thu Sep 27 2007 12:44 PM
. * * Re: Discussion Excerpts cieldumort   Thu Sep 27 2007 01:35 AM
. * * Discussion Excerpts danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 27 2007 01:10 AM
. * * Re: Karen Vortex Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 11:17 PM
. * * Karen Vortex danielwAdministrator   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Lee-Delray   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:45 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:35 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico craigm   Wed Sep 26 2007 08:00 PM
. * * Re: Wave off Florida Should Bring Rain... Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 07:04 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 StrmTrckrMiami   Wed Sep 26 2007 05:51 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 Fletch   Wed Sep 26 2007 05:26 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 flnelson   Wed Sep 26 2007 04:56 PM
. * * Re: 98L, Karen, and TD13 Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 03:33 PM
. * * 98L, Karen, and TD13 Bloodstar   Wed Sep 26 2007 02:52 PM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? WeatherNut   Wed Sep 26 2007 02:27 PM
. * * Re: Explanation Please Storm Hunter   Wed Sep 26 2007 02:04 PM
. * * Explanation Please Beach   Wed Sep 26 2007 01:16 PM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? LoisCane   Wed Sep 26 2007 12:24 PM
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. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 11:31 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? OUSHAWN   Wed Sep 26 2007 10:58 AM
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. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? Lee-Delray   Wed Sep 26 2007 09:48 AM
. * * Re: Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? craigm   Wed Sep 26 2007 09:39 AM
. * * Tropical storm karen soon to been hurricane? punkyg   Wed Sep 26 2007 09:15 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico craigm   Wed Sep 26 2007 07:24 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 04:01 AM
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. * * Re: Tropical Depression 13 Forms in Southwest Gulf of Mexico cieldumort   Wed Sep 26 2007 03:26 AM
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