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With today's 5PM NHC #HurricaneBeryl update, the U.S. is now officially in the cone for the first time. Jamaica to Mexico to Texas.
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 309 (Idalia) , Major: 309 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 309 (Idalia) Major: 309 (Idalia)
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Wind: 115MPH
Pres: 964mb
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Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean
      Mon Dec 10 2007 10:16 PM

The Subtropical vs. Tropical call with Olga is divining a very thin line. Although some of Olga's deepest convection is now over the surface circulation, a good bit of the strongest sustained winds and yet more deep convection remains removed from the center (at least as of earlier tonight, best NHC can likely tell at this point). Other likely factors in calling Olga subtropical - 1) The convection is still not all that deep, and thus more typical of late season hybrids than "tropical" cyclones 2) As seen on
radar , the potent mid-level circulation is probably still a bit removed from the primary surface circulation, for now - even appears at times as if it will attempt to stage a total coup, as well it should, once they link up, one way or another 3) The feature is still arguably somewhat tied up with the associated ULL, at least to the point of it being a lopsided tropical cyclone, for all practical purposes. It's a hybrid, but clearly very close to legitimately more "tropical," than not.

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* Tropical Storm Olga Moving Over Hispaniola MikeCAdministrator Mon Dec 10 2007 10:16 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Olga Moving Over Hispaniola cieldumort   Sat Dec 15 2007 10:03 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Olga Moving Over Hispaniola Storm Hunter   Sat Dec 15 2007 10:48 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Olga Moving Over Hispaniola cieldumort   Sat Dec 15 2007 03:00 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Olga Moving Over Hispaniola xxflcyclonexx   Fri Dec 14 2007 02:11 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Olga Moving Over Hispaniola Cat 5orBust   Fri Dec 14 2007 09:47 AM
. * * Re: Olga loops and recurves? Clark   Wed Dec 12 2007 08:58 PM
. * * Olga loops and recurves? LoisCane   Wed Dec 12 2007 03:52 PM
. * * Re: 2007 Season With NO Reason Lamar-Plant City   Wed Dec 12 2007 02:28 PM
. * * Re: 2007 Season With NO Reason BillD   Tue Dec 11 2007 10:51 PM
. * * 2007 Season With NO Reason danielwAdministrator   Tue Dec 11 2007 12:28 AM
. * * SubTS Olga danielwAdministrator   Mon Dec 10 2007 11:53 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean cieldumort   Mon Dec 10 2007 10:16 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean Clark   Mon Dec 10 2007 09:45 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean Hugh   Mon Dec 10 2007 09:16 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean Clark   Mon Dec 10 2007 08:48 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean Storm Hunter   Mon Dec 10 2007 08:32 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean Clark   Mon Dec 10 2007 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean cieldumort   Mon Dec 10 2007 06:43 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean Storm Hunter   Mon Dec 10 2007 06:38 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean Bloodstar   Mon Dec 10 2007 02:31 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean Clark   Sun Dec 09 2007 09:58 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean cieldumort   Sun Dec 09 2007 08:41 PM
. * * Re: Post Season... Watch Disturbance Northeast of the Caribbean Tony Cristaldi   Sun Dec 09 2007 08:17 PM

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