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Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast
      Sat Jul 19 2008 11:31 PM

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I think the reason why 94L hasn't developed is because it still has too much African dust or dry air entrained in its circulation. I have also never seen such a strong tropical wave go across the entire Atlantic in favorable conditions and not develop. If this storm doesn't develop then I don't know how any storm can develop. Why can't the circulation get down to the surface? Is it the African dust and dry air impeding development?




Saharan dust is not the culprit, if that helps. There really is not enough evidence that this system has been contaminated by that particular form of toxicity. This system was weak originally, a weak wave that had very little momentum while east of the Windwards. It did gain though, via a favorable large scale environment, which guided good convective explosions; such that upon entering the eastern Caribbean, and despite climatology, it gained some, but at that time 95L was in the western Caribbean. That was problematic because the outflow from all that unorganized convection was creating west to northwesterly shear, and this substantially retarded growth potential. Now that 95L is removed from the field, we've seen better convection displays since, but it became very much like starting over again. Bottom line...timing of evolution of environmental factors - not including SAL (Saharan Air Layer) - are the main reasons.

It should be noted that most models do suggest development from these time points and looking forward.

John

Edited by typhoon_tip (Sat Jul 19 2008 11:32 PM)

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* Cristobal Named off South Carolina Coast MikeCAdministrator Sat Jul 19 2008 11:31 PM
. * * Recon danielwAdministrator   Sun Jul 20 2008 12:34 PM
. * * Re: 94L craigm   Sun Jul 20 2008 12:33 PM
. * * Re: Texas Definitely In It..check out 5 day cone scottsvb   Sun Jul 20 2008 12:32 PM
. * * Re: Texas Definitely In It..check out 5 day cone Beaumont, TX   Sun Jul 20 2008 12:10 PM
. * * Re: Texas Definitely In It..check out 5 day cone Random Chaos   Sun Jul 20 2008 12:07 PM
. * * Texas Definitely In It..check out 5 day cone LoisCane   Sun Jul 20 2008 12:03 PM
. * * Re: 94L Hugh   Sun Jul 20 2008 12:01 PM
. * * Re: 94L scottsvb   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:55 AM
. * * Re: 94L Random Chaos   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:44 AM
. * * Re: 94L CaneTrackerInSoFl   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:43 AM
. * * Re: 94L WeatherNut   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:41 AM
. * * Re: 94L Texas Cane Tracker   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:39 AM
. * * Re: 94L ftlaudbob   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:29 AM
. * * Re: 94L CaneTrackerInSoFl   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:28 AM
. * * Re: 94L cieldumort   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:15 AM
. * * Re: 94L Hugh   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:12 AM
. * * Re: 94L Random Chaos   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:08 AM
. * * Re: 94L Hugh   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:04 AM
. * * Re: 94L CaneTrackerInSoFl   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:03 AM
. * * Re: 94L cieldumort   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:03 AM
. * * Re: 94L LoisCane   Sun Jul 20 2008 11:00 AM
. * * Re: 94L Hugh   Sun Jul 20 2008 10:58 AM
. * * Re: 94L Random Chaos   Sun Jul 20 2008 10:56 AM
. * * Re: 94L Hugh   Sun Jul 20 2008 10:49 AM
. * * Re: 94L Freezey   Sun Jul 20 2008 10:45 AM
. * * Re: Cristobal Named off South Carolina Coast Hugh   Sun Jul 20 2008 10:35 AM
. * * Re: Cristobal Named off South Carolina Coast Random Chaos   Sun Jul 20 2008 10:26 AM
. * * Re: 94L craigm   Sun Jul 20 2008 10:23 AM
. * * Re: Cristobal Named off South Carolina Coast cieldumort   Sun Jul 20 2008 10:19 AM
. * * Re: 94L Random Chaos   Sun Jul 20 2008 09:37 AM
. * * Re: 94L allan   Sun Jul 20 2008 09:26 AM
. * * Re: 94L LoisCane   Sun Jul 20 2008 09:03 AM
. * * Re: 94L cieldumort   Sun Jul 20 2008 04:05 AM
. * * Re: 94L Storm Hunter   Sun Jul 20 2008 02:43 AM
. * * Re: 94L scottsvb   Sun Jul 20 2008 02:10 AM
. * * 94L danielwAdministrator   Sun Jul 20 2008 12:09 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast typhoon_tip   Sat Jul 19 2008 11:31 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Random Chaos   Sat Jul 19 2008 10:42 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Storm Hunter   Sat Jul 19 2008 09:41 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Brett Addison   Sat Jul 19 2008 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Random Chaos   Sat Jul 19 2008 09:02 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sat Jul 19 2008 08:40 PM
. * * Using QuikSCAT images cieldumort   Sat Jul 19 2008 07:57 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Random Chaos   Sat Jul 19 2008 07:17 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Storm Hunter   Sat Jul 19 2008 06:48 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast MichaelA   Sat Jul 19 2008 06:25 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast JoshuaK   Sat Jul 19 2008 05:53 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Storm Hunter   Sat Jul 19 2008 04:34 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Hugh   Sat Jul 19 2008 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Storm Hunter   Sat Jul 19 2008 02:03 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast weatherguy08   Sat Jul 19 2008 01:55 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast cieldumort   Sat Jul 19 2008 01:37 PM
. * * Administrative Note Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sat Jul 19 2008 01:30 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast scottsvb   Sat Jul 19 2008 01:15 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Brett Addison   Sat Jul 19 2008 01:12 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast Ed in Va   Sat Jul 19 2008 01:04 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast craigm   Sat Jul 19 2008 01:03 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast scottsvb   Sat Jul 19 2008 12:47 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast DarleneCane   Sat Jul 19 2008 12:09 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 3 Forms off South Carolina Coast metwannabe   Sat Jul 19 2008 09:59 AM

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