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Tropical Storm Fay Forms
      Thu Aug 14 2008 12:04 PM

4 PM EDT 15 August Update
The NHC's storm data files show that 92L will be classified as Tropical Storm Fay with 35 kt winds at 5 pm EDT. The full forecast package will be available within the hour.

11AM EDT 15 August Update
Still pretty much the same as this morning, remains on the verge (but not quite) organization, and may later today before nearing Hispaniola.

Also Beyond the islands, it now appears Cuba, the Southeastern Bahamas, Hati, Dominican Republic and south Florida and the Keys should be watching this one closely.

Dominican Republic Radar (Flhurricane Recording/Loop of this Radar

{{radarlink|jua|San Juan, PR Radar}}
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8AM EDT 15 August Update
The wave near Puerto Rico (92L) still has not formed a low-level circulation, despite tons of convection, it is still generally moving toward the west and will likely have land interaction with Hati and the Dominican Republic, which is very mountainous. This likely would prevent much strengthening in the short term, or cause disruption to the system causing it to weaken . Recon aircraft will again be out there today searching for a low level circulation, which would indicate that a depression has formed, which it has about a 65% chance of doing so today.

The center is trying to form it seems, but it could be west and/or south of the Island .



Weaker systems, such as this, will tend to go further west. Those in Hati, the Dominican Republic, Southeastern Bahamas, and Eastern Cuba have the most to watch at this time.



Beyond that it really is still too early to tell, long range model runs aren't very reliable for weak systems like this.
Most turn it north before Florida, however.

Some models move it over the island land masses of the Greater Antilles, If it does go over land it would keep the system weak or cause it to fall apart, leaving less an issue for the Southeast, but cause big problems (especially in Hati) because of vast amounts of rainfall.

Check back over the weekend to find out more, especially after the system develops (if it does).


Let us know what you think in the forecast lounge, a place for shooting the breeze about the storm (including discussion about the longer range models).

5PM EDT 14 August Update
Aircraft recon has gone through the wave over/northeast of the Virgin Islands this afternoon and has determined that it still has not formed enough of a low level circulation to be considered a tropical depression, although it could become one at any time tonight or tomorrow.



Also those in Puerto Rico, Hispaniola, the Bahamas and Eastern Cuba will want to watch this very closely. For those in Florida, and elsewhere check back late tomorrow or Saturday to see what happens after the storm develops.

8AM EDT 14 August Update
A low pressure area within a tropical wave east of the lesser Antilles (aka 92L) is still moving westward this morning and will likely bring rain to the Northernmost Lesser Antilles, and possibly Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.

Development of the system is likely ether later today or tomorrow as the system is looking much better this morning overall.

Model projections in the long run may be a bit off, but the good news is that the normally better performing models and their current trends are turning it north before the US, the bad news is that it still hasn't developed and models aren't as trustworthy usually, especially if the system moves further due west. The Bahamas will need to watch this system extremely closely, though.



In short, those in the southeast still will keep an eye on this system. It may develop today or tomorrow, and it is worth keeping an eye on. Recon aircraft will be out there later today to help determine what the system is and gather data to help future forecast model runs, so watch trends. If the convection currently associated with the storm persists a bit we could see development into a depression today, negatives preventing this include finding a stable low level circulation near convection (which may keep it from developing fully today)

More to come as it happens...


Let us know what you think in the forecast lounge, a place for shooting the breeze about the storm (including discussion about the longer range models).

Lesser Antilles Radar Mosaic


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* Tropical Storm Fay Forms MikeCAdministrator Thu Aug 14 2008 12:04 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms Storm Cooper   Sat Aug 16 2008 07:24 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms allan   Sat Aug 16 2008 07:08 AM
. * * New Center Reforming South near coast? berrywr   Sat Aug 16 2008 05:58 AM
. * * East Side of Storm danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 16 2008 05:19 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms Lamar-Plant City   Sat Aug 16 2008 04:42 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms Loudest Tundra in Florida   Sat Aug 16 2008 04:33 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms JonB   Sat Aug 16 2008 04:30 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms damejune2   Sat Aug 16 2008 03:59 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms MichaelA   Sat Aug 16 2008 02:29 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico craigm   Sat Aug 16 2008 02:09 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms chase 22   Sat Aug 16 2008 01:57 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico MichaelA   Sat Aug 16 2008 01:50 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms metwannabe   Sat Aug 16 2008 01:31 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Morgan Palmer K5TVT   Sat Aug 16 2008 01:17 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms Ronn   Sat Aug 16 2008 01:15 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Storm Hunter   Sat Aug 16 2008 01:15 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Storm Hunter   Sat Aug 16 2008 12:42 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Lamar-Plant City   Sat Aug 16 2008 12:20 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms enterlaughing   Fri Aug 15 2008 11:44 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms doug   Fri Aug 15 2008 11:26 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms MichaelA   Fri Aug 15 2008 10:39 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser   Fri Aug 15 2008 10:35 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms Ed in Va   Fri Aug 15 2008 10:32 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Fay Forms Robert   Fri Aug 15 2008 10:19 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico AdvAutoBob   Fri Aug 15 2008 09:44 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico MichaelA   Fri Aug 15 2008 09:25 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Storm Hunter   Fri Aug 15 2008 08:46 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Lee-Delray   Fri Aug 15 2008 08:41 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Ed in Va   Fri Aug 15 2008 08:40 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Storm Hunter   Fri Aug 15 2008 08:27 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico B_from_NC   Fri Aug 15 2008 08:25 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico craigm   Fri Aug 15 2008 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Rabbit   Fri Aug 15 2008 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico MichaelA   Fri Aug 15 2008 08:06 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico doug   Fri Aug 15 2008 08:02 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico LoisCane   Fri Aug 15 2008 07:59 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico lawgator   Fri Aug 15 2008 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico MichaelA   Fri Aug 15 2008 07:51 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico LIWPB   Fri Aug 15 2008 07:17 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Lee-Delray   Fri Aug 15 2008 06:26 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico scottsvb   Fri Aug 15 2008 06:13 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico scottsvb   Fri Aug 15 2008 06:07 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico metwannabe   Fri Aug 15 2008 06:02 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Robert   Fri Aug 15 2008 05:56 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Robert   Fri Aug 15 2008 05:47 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico biff_the_upset   Fri Aug 15 2008 05:42 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico Adam S.   Fri Aug 15 2008 05:37 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico cieldumort   Fri Aug 15 2008 05:13 PM
. * * Re: 92L center tampa_looter   Fri Aug 15 2008 04:45 PM
. * * Re: 92L center tampa_looter   Fri Aug 15 2008 04:42 PM
. * * What should Floridians be on the lookout for? vineyardsaker   Fri Aug 15 2008 04:40 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands scottsvb   Fri Aug 15 2008 04:28 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands chase 22   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:52 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico CDMOrlando   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:47 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:32 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands follydude   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:26 PM
. * * Re: 92L center Adam S   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:22 PM
. * * Re: 92L center charlottefl   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:18 PM
. * * Re: 92L center B_from_NC   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:17 PM
. * * Re: 92L center weathernet   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:08 PM
. * * 92L center Adam S   Fri Aug 15 2008 02:54 PM
. * * Re: 93L??? weathernet   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:58 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles Adam S   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:37 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles metwannabe   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:34 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:31 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles MichaelA   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:29 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles Adam S   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:24 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:20 PM
. * * Re: 93L??? Rich B   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:14 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles Adam S   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:11 PM
. * * 93L??? ltpat228   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles MichaelA   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:55 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:54 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles doug   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles scottsvb   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:42 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near Puerto Rico CaneTrackerInSoFl   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:41 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles cchsweatherman   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:36 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles craigm   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:31 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles Beach   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:20 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles Clark   Fri Aug 15 2008 06:58 AM
. * * Re: Admin Note Robert   Fri Aug 15 2008 05:45 AM
. * * Re: Admin Note scottsvb   Fri Aug 15 2008 04:35 AM
. * * Admin Note Ed DunhamAdministrator   Fri Aug 15 2008 04:09 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands WeatherNut   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:46 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands TheOtherRick   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:44 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands scottsvb   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:31 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands WeatherNut   Fri Aug 15 2008 03:20 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands CaneTrackerInSoFl   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:58 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands jessiej   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:28 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands OrlandoDan   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:20 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles Steve H1   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:10 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands Ed in Va   Fri Aug 15 2008 01:00 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands javlin   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:57 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands charlottefl   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:37 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands Rookie from 33913   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:05 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands craigm   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:03 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands Rookie from 33913   Fri Aug 15 2008 12:00 AM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands craigm   Thu Aug 14 2008 11:56 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Near the Virgin Islands cieldumort   Thu Aug 14 2008 10:13 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles MikeCAdministrator   Thu Aug 14 2008 08:52 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles mar32366   Thu Aug 14 2008 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles Colleen A.   Thu Aug 14 2008 08:37 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles sophie   Thu Aug 14 2008 08:31 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles Clark   Thu Aug 14 2008 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles hwood   Thu Aug 14 2008 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles MikeCAdministrator   Thu Aug 14 2008 07:21 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles Colleen A.   Thu Aug 14 2008 06:29 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles cieldumort   Thu Aug 14 2008 06:28 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles CDMOrlando   Thu Aug 14 2008 05:42 PM
. * * Re: dvorak shmorak..Fay is on the way.... Robert   Thu Aug 14 2008 03:32 PM
. * * Re: Watching the Wave Northeast of the Lesser Antilles MikeCAdministrator   Thu Aug 14 2008 12:46 PM

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