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Re: Current motion
      Sat Sep 06 2008 01:43 PM

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The forecast over the next few days will be complicated by Ike's interaction with Cuba. If Ike traverses the spine of Cuba for two days--as some models predict--then I can't imagine much of it surviving that journey. ...




There has been quite a bit of talk about relying on Cuba to weaken the storm. Common sense would lead us to believe this, the Mets like to talk of this, and to a minute degree it is true, Cuba can have some disruptive effects on a TS or Hurricane.

But all available data show the effect is transitory at best and non-existent at worst.. A storm's interaction with Cuba his little to no long term effect on its' strength at an eventual mainland strike.

If you study the historical data of every storm that ever traversed cuba, either along the spine, across the mountains, on a diagonal path, or just a glancing blow, only two in 90 years of historical data were actually weakened enough to be considered "shredded" and both of these were able to regain their pre-cuba strength.

1. Inez who bounced along Cuba's southern coast before making a diagonal crossing for four days at approx. 5mph. She was reduced from a Cat 3 to a Cat 1 after four days of interaction over Cuba's land mass. And even she managed to eventually strengthen to a Cat 4, although slowly.

2. Dennis was reduced from a Cat 4 to a Cat 1 within 24 hours of crossing Cuba. However, after exiting Cuba, within 24 hours his windspeed recovered to 145mph and Cat 4 status.

Many have managed to INCREASE intensity while crossing Cuba, see Frederick, Charley, Georges, Elena, King, Baker, Alma, Isbell, Hilda, #741 1948, #723 1946.

Most have managed to MAINTAIN intensity while crossing Cuba, see Lili, Cleo, Easy, #740 1948, #707 1944, #604 1933, #547 1926, #622 1935,

A few were weakened, but this was a temporary effect. ALL but Inez were able to regain their former strength within just 24 hours, most within 12 hours.

So the "Cuba Effect" while interesting, has had little to no ability to permanently reduce a hurricane's strength below it's pre-cuba status.

It is possible that Cuba has "saved" the mainland USA from a few strikes that might have been slightly stronger had they not interacted with Cuba, but that's conjecture. Historical data shows Cuba is a road bump, not a show stopper.

Note: I only studied storms that were Cat 3 and higher at any point during their development, not necessarily while near Cuba or at landfall. Their intensities near Cuba ranged from TD to Cat 4.




As can be easily seen from this plot of Ikes projected path.

http://www.skeetobiteweather.com/picservice.asp?t=t&m=09&av=20089613

He comes off cuba as a cat 1 and very quickly regains strength to cat 3 atleast.

Also, I still believe that Hanna is going to pull the impending ridge too quickly to the East for Ike to latch onto it. If you look at the time lines of Hanna and Ike, Hanna will be way back out to the Atlantic by Tues. at 8 am, and Ike will just then be reaching the point where the northward turn is supposed to occur

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. * * Re: Forecast Points jf   Wed Sep 10 2008 12:55 PM
. * * Re: Forecast Points EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 01:26 PM
. * * ECMWF Called this landfall back on labor day weekend TarponSkyWarn   Thu Sep 11 2008 08:37 AM
. * * Re: ECMWF Called this landfall back on labor day weekend Thunderbird12   Thu Sep 11 2008 09:43 AM
. * * Re: ECMWF Called this landfall back on labor day weekend Evan Johnson   Thu Sep 11 2008 11:57 AM
. * * Re: ECMWF Called this landfall back on labor day weekend Neverwinter   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:42 PM
. * * Re: ECMWF Called this landfall back on labor day weekend hogrunr   Thu Sep 11 2008 03:31 PM
. * * Re: ECMWF Called this landfall back on labor day weekend Raymond   Thu Sep 11 2008 03:50 PM
. * * Re: ECMWF Called this landfall back on labor day weekend hogrunr   Thu Sep 11 2008 07:10 PM
. * * Re: ECMWF Called this landfall back on labor day weekend Rob In Miss   Thu Sep 11 2008 07:55 PM
. * * Re: ECMWF Called this landfall back on labor day weekend LoisCane   Thu Sep 11 2008 08:01 PM
. * * Landfall? Boomer   Fri Sep 12 2008 08:13 AM
. * * Re: Landfall? Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 12 2008 08:33 AM
. * * Re: Landfall? ShanaTX   Fri Sep 12 2008 03:23 PM
. * * Re: Landfall? Ed in Va   Fri Sep 12 2008 03:40 PM
. * * Re: Landfall? Thunderbird12   Fri Sep 12 2008 03:58 PM
. * * Re: ECMWF Called this landfall back on labor day weekend Confused   Thu Sep 11 2008 05:36 PM
. * * Re: Forecast Points hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 01:25 PM
. * * Re: Forecast Points MikeCAdministrator   Fri Sep 12 2008 02:50 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? flahurricane   Tue Sep 09 2008 10:19 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? ShanaTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 01:27 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? Storm Cooper   Wed Sep 10 2008 01:56 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? scottsvb   Wed Sep 10 2008 02:47 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 05:44 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:57 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 09:25 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 09:44 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? Neverwinter   Wed Sep 10 2008 10:29 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 11:37 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? mcgowanmc   Wed Sep 10 2008 11:49 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 12:13 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? mcgowanmc   Wed Sep 10 2008 09:18 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? ShanaTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 10:57 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? Thunderbird12   Wed Sep 10 2008 11:10 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 11:25 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? ShanaTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 11:23 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? Thunderbird12   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:10 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 01:34 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 01:36 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? Thunderbird12   Wed Sep 10 2008 01:47 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 01:57 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? scottsvb   Wed Sep 10 2008 02:16 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 02:38 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? scottsvb   Wed Sep 10 2008 03:37 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 04:14 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 11:57 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:13 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? scottsvb   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:27 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:36 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Thu Sep 11 2008 07:04 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? RedCrosser   Wed Sep 10 2008 04:03 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? ShanaTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 06:35 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:39 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 08:41 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? chitown   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:40 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 04:18 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 04:24 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 05:03 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? Thunderbird12   Wed Sep 10 2008 03:09 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 02:01 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? EBinTX   Wed Sep 10 2008 03:16 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? Neverwinter   Wed Sep 10 2008 12:08 PM
. * * Interesting wooble to the NE? Prospero   Wed Sep 10 2008 10:18 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? DMFischer   Wed Sep 10 2008 08:59 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? hogrunr   Wed Sep 10 2008 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Ike jogging back to the NW? Raymond   Wed Sep 10 2008 04:37 AM
. * * Re: why this is a possible problem LoisCane   Sun Sep 07 2008 08:30 PM
. * * Re: Ike Approaching Great Inauga, Hanna Extratropical hurricane expert   Sun Sep 07 2008 09:19 AM
. * * intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot SeaMule   Thu Sep 04 2008 07:37 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot berrywr   Sun Sep 07 2008 04:30 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Terra   Sun Sep 07 2008 06:16 AM
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. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Hugh   Sun Sep 07 2008 08:54 AM
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. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot LoisCane   Sun Sep 07 2008 03:23 PM
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. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot hogrunr   Sun Sep 07 2008 03:48 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Evan Johnson   Sun Sep 07 2008 04:07 PM
. * * Re: My long term perdictions for IKE HurricaneHunter   Sun Sep 07 2008 05:07 PM
. * * Re: My long term perdictions for IKE LoisCane   Sun Sep 07 2008 05:21 PM
. * * Re: My long term perdictions for IKE MikeCAdministrator   Sun Sep 07 2008 05:27 PM
. * * Re: My long term perdictions for IKE eulogia   Sun Sep 07 2008 07:30 PM
. * * Re: My long term perdictions for IKE MikeCAdministrator   Sun Sep 07 2008 07:39 PM
. * * Re: My long term perdictions for IKE IMTechspec   Sun Sep 07 2008 07:55 PM
. * * Re: My long term perdictions for IKE scottsvb   Sun Sep 07 2008 07:46 PM
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. * * Re: Wobble Wars! HurricaneHunter   Sun Sep 07 2008 05:49 PM
. * * Re: Wobble Wars! gatorman   Sun Sep 07 2008 06:02 PM
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. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Ed in Va   Sun Sep 07 2008 07:55 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot EBinTX   Sun Sep 07 2008 08:32 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot hurricane expert   Mon Sep 08 2008 02:50 AM
. * * Re: The NHC forecast is only good for 3 day, after 72 hrs a sharp short wave will pick IKE up HurricaneHunter   Mon Sep 08 2008 05:40 AM
. * * Re: The NHC forecast is only good for 3 day, after 72 hrs a sharp short wave will pick IKE up EBinTX   Mon Sep 08 2008 07:19 AM
. * * Re: The NHC forecast is only good for 3 day, after 72 hrs a sharp short wave will pick IKE up hogrunr   Mon Sep 08 2008 08:14 AM
. * * Re: The NHC forecast is only good for 3 day, after 72 hrs a sharp short wave will pick IKE up mcgowanmc   Mon Sep 08 2008 10:01 AM
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. * * Re: The NHC forecast is only good for 3 day, after 72 hrs a sharp short wave will pick IKE up hogrunr   Mon Sep 08 2008 11:45 AM
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. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Evan Johnson   Fri Sep 05 2008 03:53 PM
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. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot tracerrx   Fri Sep 05 2008 05:20 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot native   Fri Sep 05 2008 05:37 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot MichaelA   Fri Sep 05 2008 06:08 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot docrod   Fri Sep 05 2008 05:41 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Chris Bryant   Fri Sep 05 2008 05:16 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot hogrunr   Fri Sep 05 2008 02:15 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot mcgowanmc   Fri Sep 05 2008 01:43 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot hogrunr   Fri Sep 05 2008 10:54 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot iso   Fri Sep 05 2008 09:44 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot PensacolaWX   Fri Sep 05 2008 10:00 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot craigm   Fri Sep 05 2008 08:33 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 04 2008 07:50 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot iso   Thu Sep 04 2008 08:34 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 04 2008 09:47 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot JMII   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:37 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot LoisCane   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:46 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Bev   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:34 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot okihabu   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:27 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot docrod   Fri Sep 05 2008 05:32 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot JMII   Fri Sep 05 2008 06:25 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot KimKeyWest   Fri Sep 05 2008 05:54 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Tazmanian93   Fri Sep 05 2008 05:39 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot docrod   Fri Sep 05 2008 06:02 PM
. * * Re: Saint Lucie County EOC ltpat228   Fri Sep 05 2008 06:27 PM
. * * Re: Current motion doug   Fri Sep 05 2008 06:32 PM
. * * Re: Current motion MichaelA   Fri Sep 05 2008 07:11 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Coastal Worried   Fri Sep 05 2008 07:21 PM
. * * Re: Current motion MichaelA   Fri Sep 05 2008 07:27 PM
. * * Re: Current motion finz   Fri Sep 05 2008 07:29 PM
. * * Re: Current motion coastal worried   Fri Sep 05 2008 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Current motion MichaelA   Fri Sep 05 2008 07:42 PM
. * * Re: Current motion pcola   Fri Sep 05 2008 07:52 PM
. * * Re: Current motion MichaelA   Fri Sep 05 2008 08:01 PM
. * * Re: Current motion docrod   Fri Sep 05 2008 09:22 PM
. * * Re: Current motion docrod   Fri Sep 05 2008 09:29 PM
. * * Re: Current motion GlenJohnson   Fri Sep 05 2008 10:40 PM
. * * Re: Current motion chaserwannabe   Fri Sep 05 2008 08:10 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Fri Sep 05 2008 08:21 PM
. * * Re: Current motion native   Fri Sep 05 2008 08:53 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Lamar-Plant City   Fri Sep 05 2008 10:49 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Fri Sep 05 2008 11:05 PM
. * * Re: Current motion scottsvb   Fri Sep 05 2008 11:45 PM
. * * Re: Current motion coastal worried   Fri Sep 05 2008 11:53 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Ronn   Sat Sep 06 2008 08:09 AM
. * * Re: Current motion Bev   Sat Sep 06 2008 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 01:43 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Bev   Sat Sep 06 2008 02:03 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sat Sep 06 2008 02:50 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 03:04 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sat Sep 06 2008 03:49 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sat Sep 06 2008 04:04 PM
. * * Re: Current motion coastal worried   Sat Sep 06 2008 04:10 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 04:20 PM
. * * Re: Current motion ftlaudbob   Sat Sep 06 2008 04:48 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 04:58 PM
. * * Re: Current motion vineyardsaker   Sat Sep 06 2008 06:26 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 06:39 PM
. * * Re: Current motion vineyardsaker   Sat Sep 06 2008 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Current motion mcgowanmc   Sun Sep 07 2008 09:34 AM
. * * Re: Mayor Nagan Fears IKE HurricaneHunter   Sun Sep 07 2008 10:24 AM
. * * Re: Mayor Nagan Fears IKE mcgowanmc   Sun Sep 07 2008 11:19 AM
. * * Re: Mayor Nagan Fears IKE RCinNOLA   Sun Sep 07 2008 12:53 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Current motion coastal worried   Sat Sep 06 2008 07:44 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Taz16   Sat Sep 06 2008 07:56 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hurricane expert   Sat Sep 06 2008 08:35 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 08:42 PM
. * * Re: Current motion pcola   Sat Sep 06 2008 09:19 PM
. * * Re: Current motion danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 06 2008 09:52 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Thunderbird12   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:50 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hurricane expert   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:55 PM
. * * Re: Current motion ftlaudbob   Sat Sep 06 2008 11:15 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Bev   Sun Sep 07 2008 12:35 AM
. * * Re: Current motion scottsvb   Sat Sep 06 2008 11:34 PM
. * * Re: Current motion ftlaudbob   Sun Sep 07 2008 01:05 AM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sun Sep 07 2008 01:12 AM
. * * Re: Current motion LoisCane   Sun Sep 07 2008 01:51 AM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 11:45 PM
. * * Re: Current motion mcgowanmc   Sun Sep 07 2008 08:44 AM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sun Sep 07 2008 08:57 AM
. * * Re: Current motion mcgowanmc   Sun Sep 07 2008 11:40 AM
. * * Re: Current motion RCinNOLA   Sun Sep 07 2008 12:44 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sun Sep 07 2008 11:55 AM
. * * Re: Current motion Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Sep 07 2008 01:57 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sun Sep 07 2008 09:01 AM
. * * Re: Current motion scottsvb   Sun Sep 07 2008 12:16 AM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:38 PM
. * * Re: Current motion conschscooter   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:47 PM
. * * Re: Current motion jeangfl   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:08 PM
. * * Re: Current motion ftlaudbob   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:44 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:40 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hurricane expert   Sat Sep 06 2008 09:25 PM
. * * Re: Current motion docrod   Sat Sep 06 2008 08:14 PM
. * * Re: Current motion pcola   Sat Sep 06 2008 04:18 PM
. * * Re: Current motion jf   Sat Sep 06 2008 02:58 PM
. * * Re: Current motion Bev   Sat Sep 06 2008 01:26 PM
. * * Re: Current motion scottsvb   Fri Sep 05 2008 11:57 PM
. * * Re: Current motion hurricane expert   Sat Sep 06 2008 02:48 AM
. * * Re: Current motion doug   Sat Sep 06 2008 08:05 AM
. * * Re: Current motion mcgowanmc   Sat Sep 06 2008 09:02 AM
. * * Re: Current motion JMII   Sat Sep 06 2008 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:03 AM
. * * Re: Current motion EBinTX   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:26 AM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:58 AM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sat Sep 06 2008 11:02 AM
. * * Re: Current motion hogrunr   Sat Sep 06 2008 11:18 AM
. * * Re: Current motion EMS   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Current motion weathernet   Sat Sep 06 2008 10:24 AM
. * * Re: Current motion Ronn   Sat Sep 06 2008 11:32 AM
. * * Re: Current motion pcola   Sat Sep 06 2008 11:56 AM
. * * Re: Current motion finz   Sat Sep 06 2008 12:53 PM
. * * Re: Current motion ftlaudbob   Sat Sep 06 2008 09:23 AM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sat Sep 06 2008 09:25 AM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sat Sep 06 2008 07:59 AM
. * * Re: Current motion ftlaudbob   Sat Sep 06 2008 08:06 AM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sat Sep 06 2008 08:10 AM
. * * Re: Current motion scottsvb   Sat Sep 06 2008 08:30 AM
. * * Re: Current motion jf   Sat Sep 06 2008 08:52 AM
. * * Re: Current motion pcola   Sat Sep 06 2008 09:02 AM
. * * Re: Current motion Evan Johnson   Sat Sep 06 2008 08:52 AM
. * * Re: Current motion watchinout   Fri Sep 05 2008 08:51 PM
. * * Re: Current motion docrod   Fri Sep 05 2008 09:10 PM
. * * Re: Current motion docrod   Fri Sep 05 2008 07:51 PM
. * * Re: Current motion finz   Fri Sep 05 2008 07:25 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Evan Johnson   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:52 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot LoisCane   Thu Sep 04 2008 11:24 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Evan Johnson   Thu Sep 04 2008 11:52 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot weathernet   Thu Sep 04 2008 01:17 PM
. * * IKE ftlaudbob   Thu Sep 04 2008 12:45 PM
. * * 12Z European shows big westward shift.. TheElNino1   Thu Sep 04 2008 03:31 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 04 2008 03:51 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. Evan Johnson   Thu Sep 04 2008 04:16 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. LoisCane   Thu Sep 04 2008 04:57 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. craigm   Thu Sep 04 2008 04:32 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. Evan Johnson   Thu Sep 04 2008 05:10 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. JMII   Thu Sep 04 2008 06:07 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. iso   Thu Sep 04 2008 07:01 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. iso   Thu Sep 04 2008 07:05 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. OrlandoDan   Thu Sep 04 2008 07:33 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. LoisCane   Thu Sep 04 2008 07:38 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. OrlandoDan   Thu Sep 04 2008 07:51 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. hogrunr   Thu Sep 04 2008 08:13 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. OrlandoDan   Thu Sep 04 2008 09:05 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. craigm   Thu Sep 04 2008 08:52 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. Evan Johnson   Thu Sep 04 2008 09:23 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. JMII   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:01 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. LoisCane   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:38 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. flhurcnwtchr   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:09 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. St_Petersburg_Layman   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:31 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. iso   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:42 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. LoisCane   Thu Sep 04 2008 10:52 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. vineyardsaker   Thu Sep 04 2008 11:15 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. Lamar-Plant City   Fri Sep 05 2008 12:30 AM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. hurricane expert   Fri Sep 05 2008 01:20 AM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. Bev   Fri Sep 05 2008 01:42 AM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. LoisCane   Fri Sep 05 2008 01:02 AM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. ltpat228   Thu Sep 04 2008 09:36 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. hogrunr   Thu Sep 04 2008 09:53 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. jessiej   Thu Sep 04 2008 08:30 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. Wxwatcher2   Thu Sep 04 2008 08:38 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. Storm Cooper   Thu Sep 04 2008 08:51 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 04 2008 07:33 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 04 2008 05:35 PM
. * * Re: 12Z European shows big westward shift.. Lee-Delray   Thu Sep 04 2008 05:40 PM
. * * Historical note about Ike Bev   Thu Sep 04 2008 06:17 PM
. * * eye wall EXPANDING SeaMule   Thu Sep 04 2008 04:58 PM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot Evan Johnson   Thu Sep 04 2008 09:28 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot *DELETED* MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 04 2008 07:49 AM
. * * Re: intensity forecasts for Ike will be a crap shoot ftlaudbob   Thu Sep 04 2008 08:01 AM
. * * Re: Ike Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 03 2008 02:38 PM
. * * Re: Ike Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 03 2008 05:39 PM
. * * Re: Ike Lounge saluki   Wed Sep 03 2008 06:03 PM
. * * Re: Ike Lounge Ben F.   Wed Sep 03 2008 08:36 PM
. * * Re: Ike Lounge ftlaudbob   Wed Sep 03 2008 08:42 PM
. * * Re: Ike Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 03 2008 08:55 PM
. * * Re: Ike Lounge ltpat228   Wed Sep 03 2008 09:03 PM
. * * Re: Ike Lounge OrlandoDan   Wed Sep 03 2008 09:29 PM
. * * Re: Ike Lounge ftlaudbob   Thu Sep 04 2008 01:50 AM
. * * Re: 97L Lounge cieldumort   Mon Sep 01 2008 05:57 AM
. * * Re: 97L Lounge hurricane expert   Mon Sep 01 2008 12:51 AM

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