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#Beryl now at 65mph. Now Forecast to be a Major Hurricane near the Windwards on Monday.
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 304 (Idalia) , Major: 304 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 304 (Idalia) Major: 304 (Idalia)
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SeaMule
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Loc: Fairhope, Al...on the coast
after seeing what we're seeing, what if?
      Wed Sep 10 2008 09:32 PM

I have been watching these things since Frederic of 79....and just missed Katrina...and watched her develop. A few things noteworthy and in need of a met or two to explain if my thought pattern fits what I'm seeing.

Could the reason Ike has a low pressure drop, yet still, wind speeds that haven't caught up to that drop, be because it is so large in diameter? I'm thinking of a skater who the closer she pulls herself in when spinning, the faster she goes...

Here is the thought I'm having. Is the size of this cane, as well as the quick drop in the pressure, and the evident double and perhaps triple eyewall....be an event we just haven't seen before? Is this perhaps the super-type cyclone they talk about? This thing is so large...that when you do the floater loop...it seems like a small picture....it doesn't cover the whole storm...

and now it's reaching the warm eddies...and I heard on the weather....that they can't discount a 5.....

anyhow....given all that...my original feelings that a quickly developing and more dangerous hurricane...might be something the models have NOT considered. Could the size of the storm...and power of it....overcome the high pressure ridges...and in effect...could Ike go wherever it wants...?

I seriously would like a met's thoughts on this.

Edited by Ed Dunham (Thu Sep 11 2008 01:04 AM)

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* Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued MikeCAdministrator Wed Sep 10 2008 09:32 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Local Statement for IKE Random Chaos   Fri Sep 12 2008 08:15 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Local Statement for IKE UKCloudgazer   Fri Sep 12 2008 04:58 AM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued Raymond   Fri Sep 12 2008 04:44 AM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued cieldumort   Fri Sep 12 2008 04:02 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Local Statement for IKE Random Chaos   Fri Sep 12 2008 01:01 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Local Statement for IKE danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 12 2008 12:57 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Local Statement for IKE CaneTrackerInSoFl   Fri Sep 12 2008 12:51 AM
. * * Re: Certain death... flahurricane   Fri Sep 12 2008 12:51 AM
. * * Re: Certain death... scottsvb   Fri Sep 12 2008 12:46 AM
. * * Hurricane Local Statement for IKE danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 12 2008 12:40 AM
. * * Re: Uhh Ohh Ed DunhamAdministrator   Fri Sep 12 2008 12:36 AM
. * * Re: Certain death... danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 12 2008 12:35 AM
. * * Certain death... RedingtonBeachGuy   Fri Sep 12 2008 12:29 AM
. * * Uhh Ohh danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 12 2008 12:16 AM
. * * heading more west cause SeaMule   Fri Sep 12 2008 12:13 AM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 11 2008 11:26 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued amazon   Thu Sep 11 2008 10:55 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued Random Chaos   Thu Sep 11 2008 10:46 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 11 2008 10:41 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued Thunderbird12   Thu Sep 11 2008 10:30 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued LoisCane   Thu Sep 11 2008 10:23 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued RedingtonBeachGuy   Thu Sep 11 2008 10:14 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued shewtinstar   Thu Sep 11 2008 10:08 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued Rasvar   Thu Sep 11 2008 10:05 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued cieldumort   Thu Sep 11 2008 09:29 PM
. * * Re: 5 PM Discussion LoisCane   Thu Sep 11 2008 07:58 PM
. * * Re: 5 PM Discussion MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 11 2008 06:29 PM
. * * Re: 5 PM Discussion craigm   Thu Sep 11 2008 05:52 PM
. * * Re: 5 PM Discussion Hurikid   Thu Sep 11 2008 05:28 PM
. * * 5 PM Discussion danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 11 2008 04:59 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued cieldumort   Thu Sep 11 2008 04:56 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued Thunderbird12   Thu Sep 11 2008 03:57 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued Raymond   Thu Sep 11 2008 03:44 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued jf   Thu Sep 11 2008 03:38 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued kromdog   Thu Sep 11 2008 03:36 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued pcola   Thu Sep 11 2008 02:57 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued Raymond   Thu Sep 11 2008 02:52 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued Geoff   Thu Sep 11 2008 02:46 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued txcntrygrl   Thu Sep 11 2008 02:38 PM
. * * Wave heights RedingtonBeachGuy   Thu Sep 11 2008 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued Raymond   Thu Sep 11 2008 02:09 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Warnings Issued txcntrygrl   Thu Sep 11 2008 02:03 PM
. * * Re: Ike size Raymond   Thu Sep 11 2008 02:02 PM
. * * Re: Ike size scottsvb   Thu Sep 11 2008 01:52 PM
. * * Re: Ike size Raymond   Thu Sep 11 2008 01:21 PM
. * * Ike vs. Katrina SeaMule   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:58 PM
. * * Re: Ike size Thunderbird12   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:44 PM
. * * Re: Ike size Raymond   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:28 PM
. * * Re: Ike size Thunderbird12   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:21 PM
. * * Re: Ike size danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:12 PM
. * * Ike size ShanaTX   Thu Sep 11 2008 11:50 AM
. * * Re: Galveston Bay surge impact pcola   Thu Sep 11 2008 11:46 AM
. * * Re: Galveston Bay surge impact HCW   Thu Sep 11 2008 11:11 AM
. * * Re: Galveston Bay surge impact danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 11 2008 10:36 AM
. * * Re: Galveston Bay surge impact HCW   Thu Sep 11 2008 10:23 AM
. * * Re: Galveston Bay surge impact danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 11 2008 09:39 AM
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. * * Re: Galveston Bay surge impact danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 11 2008 08:16 AM
. * * Re: Galveston Bay surge impact Random Chaos   Thu Sep 11 2008 08:04 AM
. * * Re: Galveston Bay surge impact Raymond   Thu Sep 11 2008 07:55 AM
. * * Re: Galveston Bay surge impact Random Chaos   Thu Sep 11 2008 07:37 AM
. * * Galveston Bay surge impact RedingtonBeachGuy   Thu Sep 11 2008 05:20 AM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Ed DunhamAdministrator   Thu Sep 11 2008 01:20 AM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued BillD   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued flahurricane   Thu Sep 11 2008 12:01 AM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Robert   Wed Sep 10 2008 11:16 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Thunderbird12   Wed Sep 10 2008 11:16 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Random Chaos   Wed Sep 10 2008 10:18 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued SeaMule   Wed Sep 10 2008 10:14 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Allison   Wed Sep 10 2008 09:50 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Clark   Wed Sep 10 2008 09:46 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued mikethewreck   Wed Sep 10 2008 09:37 PM
. * * after seeing what we're seeing, what if? SeaMule   Wed Sep 10 2008 09:32 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued lennox   Wed Sep 10 2008 09:26 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued craigm   Wed Sep 10 2008 08:43 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued LoisCane   Wed Sep 10 2008 08:37 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Thunderbird12   Wed Sep 10 2008 08:22 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Random Chaos   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:46 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued WeatherNut   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:45 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Thunderbird12   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:39 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Random Chaos   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:30 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued k___g   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:28 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Random Chaos   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:25 PM
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. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:12 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued kromdog   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:11 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued weather999   Wed Sep 10 2008 07:00 PM
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. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued david2   Wed Sep 10 2008 06:08 PM
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. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Raymond   Wed Sep 10 2008 05:47 PM
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. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 10 2008 05:39 PM
. * * Re: Huge Hurricane Ike in Gulf, Hurricane Watches Issued Random Chaos   Wed Sep 10 2008 05:31 PM

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