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Unseasonably stout wave in Caribbean bringing enhanced showers and tstorms for several days, but lacks model support for development 5/26
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 276 (Idalia) , Major: 276 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 276 (Idalia) Major: 276 (Idalia)
 


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Re: 97L CDO formation??
      Sat Aug 20 2011 04:37 PM

In addition to recon, looks like we have a bouy ( #41101 ) nearly right in the path of 97L. I think if west winds were detected along with falling pressure, than ample data would exist to permit an upgrade to depression ( regardless of recon ). I do not yet believe that the west winds will be found at the surface, perhaps close though.

Looks to me however, that the fast forward motion along with a light southerly component of shear, might still be a temporary hinderance to 97L being upgraded at the ( or prior too ) 3:00pm recon fix. Looks to my eyes, that a LLC might be trying to form under the small CDO at about 14.8 N & 56 W. HOWEVER...., I believe that a reforming LLC will actually emerge farther north between 16 - 17 N under what I believe may be the mid level vortex which appears to be moving on a more WNW direction. Given the excellent mid level structure as exhibited since yesterday, it would appear that the only reason that the system is not already better vertically stacked, is due to the ongoing attempt for a LLC to form, yet getting "stretched" away due to the lower level flow being somewhat more westerly ( and contrary to the mid level wanting to move more WNW at the same time ).

Given improving upper air & and oceanic heat dynamics, the prospects for the system deepening would appear to be getting better as it continues along. My guess is that recon will record some fairly high gusts in squalls ( perhaps 40-50 knots? ) on the northern quadrant of the overall system, but still fall short of being able to close off a surface low. I would expect that convective bursting later this afternoon or evening might just help bring a tilted LLC to the surface and perhaps might occur before nights end.

Tricky situation, given the strength and size of the wave, and its proximity to the islands ( regardless where the ultimate center forms ).

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* Tropical Storm Harvey Makes Landfall in Belize Ed DunhamAdministrator Sat Aug 20 2011 04:37 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? NewWatcher   Sat Aug 20 2011 10:38 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? Hugh   Sat Aug 20 2011 10:37 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? Bloodstar   Sat Aug 20 2011 10:36 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? MikeCAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 10:31 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? WeatherNut   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:54 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? MikeCAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:53 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? Bloodstar   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:51 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:48 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? Hugh   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:42 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? MikeCAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:36 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? NewWatcher   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:36 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? Hugh   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:33 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? MikeCAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:29 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? Hugh   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:24 PM
. * * Re: 97L Vortex danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:23 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? WeatherNut   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:23 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:13 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? MikeCAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:10 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? WeatherNut   Sat Aug 20 2011 09:08 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? Hugh   Sat Aug 20 2011 08:43 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? MikeCAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 07:37 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 05:23 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? scottsvb   Sat Aug 20 2011 05:02 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? weathernet   Sat Aug 20 2011 04:37 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 03:36 PM
. * * Re: 97L CDO formation?? mwillis   Sat Aug 20 2011 03:22 PM
. * * 97L CDO formation?? danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 03:02 PM
. * * Tropical Storm Harvey Vortex danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 02:44 PM
. * * Re: 97L East of Lesser Antilles WesnWylie   Sat Aug 20 2011 02:35 PM
. * * 97L East of Lesser Antilles danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 20 2011 02:19 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Harvey Just Off North Shore of Honduras MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 19 2011 10:12 PM
. * * Re: Invest 93L Becomes TD#8 While 97L Moves West in the Central Atlantic WeatherNut   Fri Aug 19 2011 06:02 PM
. * * Re: Invest 93L Becomes TD#8 While 97L Moves West in the Central Atlantic danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 19 2011 03:25 PM
. * * Re: Invest 93L Becomes TD#8 While 97L Moves West in the Central Atlantic WeatherNut   Fri Aug 19 2011 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Invest 93L Continues to Organize While 97L Moves West in the Central Atlantic JoshuaK   Fri Aug 19 2011 03:02 AM

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