Boy has it ever borning around hear ! ! ! As for the tropical weather the tropical low and the pacific that I think should of been upgraded to a t.d was another nhc sleep off because durning the day it was clear tight low leavel center and thunderstorms what else is needed for a t.d wow I'm starting to think that it takes a hurricane with a eye wall to be a t.d with the nhc last night it had a d-2.5 that tropical storm. Now there a big typoon 160 mph winds I think it will become as strong as mitch. t.d 13 is alot of rain. that the forecast atlantic a few area to watch upper lows not much fast poll