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Bev
Weather Guru

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Loc: Port Charlotte, FL and Abaco, ...

Re: WV Loops
Fri Sep 10 2004 10:19 AM

Quote:

That is interesting...maybe that's what causing the disruption in the storm.

BillD. has a good point, too. When and where. The $60 million question.

If the course holds true and Venice through Tampa take a direct hit, it might be the $60 BILLION question. :-(

-Bev

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Hurricane Ivan Paths	MikeC	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:19 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	SkeetoBite	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:49 PM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	RobNYJ	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:22 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Eric_in_SC	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:48 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	jth	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:57 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	javlin	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:16 PM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:27 AM
Curious!	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:39 AM
Ridges and Troughs	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:57 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:36 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	andy1tom	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:57 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Storm Cooper	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:05 PM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	rmbjoe1954	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:04 PM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	andy1tom	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:08 PM
ERC	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:12 PM
Re: ERC	ROB IN PA	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:41 PM
Re: ERC	StormHound	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:25 PM
SLOSH map for Mobile	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:29 PM
Re: SLOSH map for Mobile	HCW	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:41 PM
Re: SLOSH map for Mobile	Bev	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:34 PM
Florida SLOSH Maps	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:51 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	Mozart	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:08 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	scottsvb1	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:41 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	scottsvb1	Sat Sep 11 2004 12:28 PM
Thanks, Scott!	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:39 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	jlauderdal	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:07 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	Bev	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:14 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	AgentB	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:57 PM
HELLO PEOPLE.. WAKE UP	trinibaje	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:01 PM
Re: HELLO PEOPLE.. WAKE UP	limerboy1	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:33 PM
Re: HELLO PEOPLE.. WAKE UP	MrSpock	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:05 PM
Broward County	Chopper Dave	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:08 PM
miami	lois	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:12 PM
Re: miami	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:15 PM
Thomas says shifting east	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:24 PM
Re: Thomas says shifting east	RedingtonBeachGuy	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:41 PM
Re: Thomas says shifting east	trinibaje	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:37 PM
Re: Thomas says shifting east	scottsvb1	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:39 PM
Re: Thomas says shifting east	rule	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:57 PM
Re: Thomas says shifting east	scottsvb1	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:41 PM
Re: miami	Chopper Dave	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:14 PM
Re: miami	tenavilla	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:21 PM
Re: miami	SOFLAHAPPYGAL	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:25 PM
How far is it?	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:31 PM
Re: How far is it?	G8R	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:34 PM
GAS RESTRICTION	MIAMIFL	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:40 PM
Re: GAS RESTRICTION	alley	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:18 PM
Re: GAS RESTRICTION	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:44 PM
Let's Put The Gas Rationing Rumor to Bed & Other Info	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:08 PM
Re: Let's Put The Gas Rationing Rumor to Bed & Other Info	ShaggyDude	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:12 PM
Re: Let's Put The Gas Rationing Rumor to Bed & Other Info	Ed in Va	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:17 PM
Re: Let's Put The Gas Rationing Rumor to Bed & Other Info	rule	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:24 PM
Re: Let's Put The Gas Rationing Rumor to Bed & Other Info	trinibaje	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:26 PM
Re: Let's Put The Gas Rationing Rumor to Bed & Other Info	ShaggyDude	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:16 PM
Multiple landfalls	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:15 PM
Re: Multiple landfalls	GaryC	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:20 PM
Re: Multiple landfalls	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:27 PM
Re: Let's Put The Gas Rationing Rumor to Bed & Other Info	trinibaje	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:15 PM
Rumors and the danger	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:51 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	andy1tom	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:01 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	MrSpock	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:08 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	lilyv	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:07 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	c ray	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:59 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:26 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	tpratch	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:31 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	Lake Toho - Kissimmee	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:21 PM
c-ray is RIGHT	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:02 PM
I just think	trinibaje	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:07 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	ThirdRay	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:57 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	trinibaje	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:54 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:00 PM
Re: Rumors and the danger	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:57 PM
Re: GAS RESTRICTION	StormHound	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:50 PM
Re: GAS RESTRICTION	trinibaje	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:47 PM
Gas Rationing...FALSE.	wxman007	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:38 PM
Re: Gas Rationing...FALSE.	Kal	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:04 PM
Ivan thoughts....	wxman007	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:09 PM
FALSE	MIAMIFL	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:11 PM
Re: FALSE	ThirdRay	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:15 PM
Re: FALSE	MrSpock	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:20 PM
Re: FALSE	tpratch	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:18 PM
Re: Gas Rationing...FALSE.	lilyv	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:59 PM
Re: Gas Rationing...FALSE.	G8R	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:49 PM
Re: Gas Rationing...FALSE.	slstewart	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:44 PM
Overall Water Vapor	Terra	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:03 PM
Re: Overall Water Vapor	rule	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:16 PM
Re: Overall Water Vapor	Sadie	Fri Sep 10 2004 05:33 PM
Re: Overall Water Vapor	Terra	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:22 PM
Re: Overall Water Vapor	rule	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:42 PM
IVAN...nothing else!	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:26 PM
Re: IVAN...nothing else!	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:30 PM
Shear	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:42 PM
Re: Shear	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:46 PM
WV Loops	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:50 PM
Re: Shear	ShaggyDude	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:47 PM
Re: Shear	rule	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:51 PM
Re: IVAN...nothing else!	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:29 PM
Re: IVAN...nothing else!	Mozart	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:36 PM
Re: IVAN...nothing else!	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:35 PM
Rumor?	Jamiewx	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:06 PM
Re: Rumor?	GaryC	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:11 PM
Re: Gas Rationing...FALSE.	Kruz	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:48 PM
Re: Gas Rationing...FALSE.	slstewart	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:55 PM
Re: Gas Rationing	MIAMIFL	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:00 PM
Re: Gas Rationing	wxman007	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:06 PM
Re: Gas Rationing	ShaggyDude	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:08 PM
Re: Gas Rationing	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:11 PM
Re: Gas Rationing	tenavilla	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:27 PM
there will be no need to ration	trinibaje	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:10 PM
Re: Gas Rationing...FALSE.	Kruz	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:58 PM
Gas ration	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:36 PM
Re: How far is it?	Kruz	Fri Sep 10 2004 03:36 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	Bev	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:05 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	AgentB	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:16 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	tenavilla	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:15 PM
More and More West	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:20 PM
li phil	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:31 PM
Re: li phil	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:39 PM
definitely on a more westerly track ya'll	rickonboat	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:37 PM
Re: li phil	Wxwatcher2	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:36 PM
Re: li phil	StormHound	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:45 PM
eye rebuild, or heading more west?....you decide	rickonboat	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:49 PM
Re: li phil	tenavilla	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:41 PM
Re: More and More West	rickonboat	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:25 PM
Re: More and More West	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:33 PM
NWS Tampa Discussion	Jamiewx	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:35 PM
Re: More and More West	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:30 PM
Re: More and More West	MrSpock	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:29 PM
Re: More and More West	MrSpock	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:23 PM
New Vortex message	MrSpock	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:17 PM
Thanks everyone	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:19 PM
Re: New Vortex message	Wxwatcher2	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:19 PM
FSU ensemble vs The Models?	LoisCane	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:07 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	MO stormspotter	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:00 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	Steve	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:08 PM
Re: Florida SLOSH Maps	Storm Cooper	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:04 PM
Re: SLOSH map for Mobile	MO Stormspotter	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:38 PM
Hawaii has some pretty water vapor images	Lake Toho - Kissimmee	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:32 PM
Re: Hawaii has some pretty water vapor images	Ed in Va	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:38 PM
Re: Hawaii has some pretty water vapor images	Clark	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:43 PM
Re: Hawaii has some pretty water vapor images	StormHound	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:48 PM
Re: Hawaii has some pretty water vapor images	kelcot	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:47 PM
Re: ERC	Fletch5150	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:40 PM
Looking at the Jamician radar	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:50 PM
Re: ERC	Lake Toho - Kissimmee	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:48 PM
Re: ERC	ShaggyDude	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:46 PM
Re: ERC	rmbjoe1954	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:17 PM
Re: ERC	Norm in Canada	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:25 PM
Re: ERC	Kdubs	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:33 PM
Re: ERC	MrSpock	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:38 PM
Re: ERC	AgentB	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:35 PM
Re: ERC	WeatherNLU	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:35 PM
Re: ERC	Storm Cooper	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:35 PM
some input from outside FL	schmaa	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:39 PM
Re: ERC	Eagle_Ed	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:30 PM
Closing time	Takingforever	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:35 PM
Re: Closing time	HCW	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:37 PM
Re: Closing time	Clark	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:37 PM
Re: Closing time	Kal	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:48 PM
Re: Closing time	AgentB	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:51 PM
Re: Closing time	Kal	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:02 PM
Re: Closing time	Fletch5150	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:39 PM
Re: Closing time	Clark	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:38 PM
Re: Closing time	belleami	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:46 PM
Re: Closing time	GaryC	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:40 PM
Re: Closing time	AgentB	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:12 PM
Re: Closing time	Fletch5150	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:20 PM
Re: Closing time	AgentB	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:38 PM
Re: Rapid Scan Operation	Sam33	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:24 PM
Re: Closing time	Ed in Va	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:11 PM
Re: Closing time	Lake Toho - Kissimmee	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:57 PM
Re: Closing time	Bev	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:45 PM
Ivan Damage Photo-Grenada	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:34 PM
Re: Ivan Damage Photo-Grenada	Ed Hinman	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:46 PM
Re: ERC	Steve	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:34 PM
Re: ERC	tenavilla	Fri Sep 10 2004 12:16 PM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Kal	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:34 AM
Re: Tampa bays worst nightmare	ROB H	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:43 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:40 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Hurric	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:13 AM
Hurric	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:32 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Lake Toho - Kissimmee	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:17 AM
Jamaica Radio Station	Lake Toho - Kissimmee	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:19 AM
JAMAICA	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:23 AM
Re: JAMAICA	MikeC	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:34 AM
Re: JAMAICA	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:47 AM
Re: JAMAICA	Bev	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:53 AM
Re: JAMAICA	Frank P	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:59 AM
Good News/Bad News	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:09 AM
Re: Good News/Bad News	Kdubs	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:29 AM
Re: Good News/Bad News	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:24 AM
Re: Good News/Bad News	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:33 AM
Re: Good News/Bad News	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:42 AM
Re: Good News/Bad News	trinibaje	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:16 AM
Re: Good News/Bad News	doug	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:12 AM
Re: JAMAICA	Mozart	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:33 AM
Eye Problems??	Cocoa Beach	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:42 AM
Re: Eye Problems??	AgentB	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:57 AM
Re: Eye Problems??	doug	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:32 AM
Re: Eye Problems??	Ed in Va	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:02 AM
Re: Eye Problems??	AgentB	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:33 AM
Falling apart alla Frances???	jth	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:51 AM
Re: Falling apart alla Frances???	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:06 AM
Re: Falling apart alla Frances???	Justin in Miami	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:31 AM
Re: Falling apart alla Frances??? & Richard	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:53 AM
Re: Falling apart alla Frances???	andy1tom	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:53 AM
Re: Falling apart alla Frances???	BillD	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:05 AM
Ivan Paths - Up close & personal	SkeetoBite	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:08 AM
Re: Ivan Paths - Up close & personal	SOFLAHAPPYGAL	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:33 AM
Re: Ivan Paths - Up close & personal	Ricreig	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:36 AM
TAMPA	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:01 AM
Re: TAMPA	alley	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:11 PM
Tampa SLOSH map from Georges	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:15 PM
Re: Tampa SLOSH map from Georges	alley	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:22 PM
Re: Tampa SLOSH map from Georges	Bloodstar	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:50 PM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	danielw	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:00 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Eric_in_SC	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:13 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Mozart	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:42 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	BeachBum	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:33 AM
Re: Evacuation	BeachBum	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:34 AM
Re: Evacuation	Ed in Va	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:37 AM
WV Loops	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:03 AM
Re: WV Loops	Bev	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:19 AM
Re: WV Loops	tenavilla	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:37 AM
Re: WV Loops	RMagic	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:43 PM
Re: WV Loops	MrSpock	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:48 PM
Re: WV Loops	RMagic	Fri Sep 10 2004 01:59 PM
Re: WV Loops	AgentB	Fri Sep 10 2004 02:05 PM
Re: WV Loops	Wxwatcher2	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:42 AM
State of Emergency for Manatee County?	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:53 AM
Re: State of Emergency for Manatee County?	Wxwatcher2	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:06 AM
Sorry for ya'll	rickonboat	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:30 AM
Ivan	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:20 AM
Re: Ivan	Steve hirschb.	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:25 AM
Re: Ivan	Kdubs	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:34 AM
Re: Ivan	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:32 AM
Trying to keep my chin up	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:04 AM
Re: Trying to keep my chin up	Fletch5150	Fri Sep 10 2004 11:25 AM
11 am IS OUT	Lake Toho - Kissimmee	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:51 AM
Re: WV Loops	tenavilla	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:50 AM
RADAR???	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:07 AM
Re: RADAR???	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:30 AM
Re: RADAR???	Ed in Va	Fri Sep 10 2004 10:09 AM
Re: Evacuation	BillD	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:46 AM
Re: Evacuation	Terra	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:42 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:28 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Ricreig	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:34 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:59 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Gerald	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:33 PM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	ShaggyDude	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:38 PM
5:00 PM discussion	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:38 PM
Re: 5:00 PM discussion	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 10 2004 05:01 PM
Re: 5:00 PM discussion	Lake Toho - Kissimmee	Fri Sep 10 2004 05:07 PM
Re: 5:00 PM discussion	Cane Watcher	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:47 PM
Re: 5:00 PM discussion	Rasvar	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:48 PM
Re: 5:00 PM discussion	LI Phil	Fri Sep 10 2004 04:40 PM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Ricreig	Fri Sep 10 2004 09:07 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	HCW	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:31 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	Terra	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:23 AM
Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths	danielw	Fri Sep 10 2004 08:35 AM
MLB Discussion	Jamiewx	Fri Sep 10 2004 07:55 AM