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LoisCane
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Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest
      Tue Jul 08 2008 12:02 PM

With almost any other storm i would agree however she is an extremely small, storm with hurricane force winds only 30 miles out from the eye and due to her size alone she is a small, strong pebble in a great big sea of weather and think her future intensity in the short term will be influenced by conditions around that small, seemingly intense core of category 3 winds.

I don't think her bad presentation on dvorak is due to eye wall replacement though it may be hard to determine without recon what is really going on from sats as they don't tell the whole story perfectly.

Her pressure has gone up steadily however they kept the winds at 120.

There is a lot going on there inside and around this storm. Would be fascinating to get a Gulfstream Jet in there and be able to after the fact figure out what happened here and use that data towards better intensity forecasts down the line.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/tpw2/natl/images/mosaic20080708T100000.gif

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/bd-l.jpg

Reminds me of a very small, intense Hurricane Bret that hit Texas

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/crp/docs/research/hurrhistory/bret/default.html

3rd paragraph down discusses Bret's size:

"An interesting meteorological phenomenon associated with Hurricane Bret, was the unusually small diameter of hurricane force winds that extended out from the center of this powerful storm. Even as Bret rapidly intensified to a major hurricane, the hurricane force winds (winds sustained of 75 mph or greater) extended out only 30 to 40 miles in all directions from the center."

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* A few changes with Bertha John C Tue Jul 08 2008 12:02 PM
. * * Re: A few changes with Bertha Hugh   Sat Jul 12 2008 02:11 AM
. * * Re: A few changes with Bertha typhoon_tip   Sat Jul 12 2008 01:27 AM
. * * Re: A few changes with Bertha ~Floydbuster   Fri Jul 11 2008 11:27 PM
. * * Re:new way to look Gigsley   Fri Jul 11 2008 09:55 PM
. * * Re: Question LoisCane   Fri Jul 11 2008 07:22 PM
. * * Re: Question Storm Hunter   Fri Jul 11 2008 03:54 PM
. * * Question Beach   Fri Jul 11 2008 12:24 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest LoisCane   Fri Jul 11 2008 12:09 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Treymont   Thu Jul 10 2008 07:05 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Treymont   Thu Jul 10 2008 06:53 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest typhoon_tip   Thu Jul 10 2008 05:58 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Ed in Va   Thu Jul 10 2008 05:38 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest typhoon_tip   Thu Jul 10 2008 04:36 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Treymont   Thu Jul 10 2008 03:41 PM
. * * Models danielwAdministrator   Thu Jul 10 2008 03:35 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Storm Cooper   Thu Jul 10 2008 09:23 AM
. * * Bertha back to a Category Two neospaceblue   Wed Jul 09 2008 08:37 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest JoshuaK   Wed Jul 09 2008 08:16 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest Rich B   Wed Jul 09 2008 07:27 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha regaining some strength. Still Moving Northwest cieldumort   Wed Jul 09 2008 07:26 PM
. * * Discussion Heads Up danielwAdministrator   Wed Jul 09 2008 05:15 PM
. * * Definite strengthening signaled by satellite... typhoon_tip   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:51 PM
. * * Bertha Influences?? danielwAdministrator   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:51 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Weakening Now Moving Northwest Rich B   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:39 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Weakening Now Moving Northwest typhoon_tip   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:21 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving WNW ftlaudbob   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:08 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving WNW SATBEACH   Wed Jul 09 2008 03:40 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest cieldumort   Wed Jul 09 2008 09:11 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest WhitherWeather   Wed Jul 09 2008 05:59 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Ed DunhamAdministrator   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:58 AM
. * * Bertha Weakening. Robert   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:47 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest typhoon_tip   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:28 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest LDH892   Wed Jul 09 2008 04:16 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest LoisCane   Wed Jul 09 2008 03:53 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest typhoon_tip   Wed Jul 09 2008 03:24 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Hugh   Wed Jul 09 2008 02:14 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Ed DunhamAdministrator   Wed Jul 09 2008 02:07 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Hugh   Wed Jul 09 2008 01:14 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest M.A.   Wed Jul 09 2008 01:09 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest LoisCane   Tue Jul 08 2008 12:02 PM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest danielwAdministrator   Tue Jul 08 2008 02:38 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest LoisCane   Tue Jul 08 2008 02:36 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Hugh   Tue Jul 08 2008 02:12 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest cieldumort   Tue Jul 08 2008 02:02 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Robert   Tue Jul 08 2008 01:24 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Hugh   Tue Jul 08 2008 01:22 AM
. * * Re: Major Hurricane Bertha Now Moving Northwest Ed DunhamAdministrator   Tue Jul 08 2008 12:56 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch Hugh   Tue Jul 08 2008 12:12 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch LoisCane   Tue Jul 08 2008 12:01 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch M.A.   Mon Jul 07 2008 11:54 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch Hugh   Mon Jul 07 2008 10:48 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch cieldumort   Mon Jul 07 2008 08:30 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch typhoon_tip   Mon Jul 07 2008 07:59 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch Rich B   Mon Jul 07 2008 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch ftlaudbob   Mon Jul 07 2008 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch Rich B   Mon Jul 07 2008 06:45 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch allan   Mon Jul 07 2008 05:56 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch scottsvb   Mon Jul 07 2008 05:41 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha typhoon_tip   Mon Jul 07 2008 05:05 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Forms in Atlantic, Bermuda needs to Watch allan   Mon Jul 07 2008 04:41 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha chase 22   Mon Jul 07 2008 04:23 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha MikeCAdministrator   Mon Jul 07 2008 03:33 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha Fr33z3y   Mon Jul 07 2008 02:58 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha scottsvb   Mon Jul 07 2008 02:29 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha MikeCAdministrator   Mon Jul 07 2008 01:31 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha craigm   Mon Jul 07 2008 11:43 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Bertha cieldumort   Mon Jul 07 2008 11:41 AM

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