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Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas
      Fri Aug 25 2017 12:23 PM

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I noticed a similar phenomenon monitoring Matthew last year. The winds aloft, that are taken to be the true measure of the storm, aren't at all the winds that reach to the ground.




I've noticed this in multiple hurricanes over the years. Not sure how the NHC calculates the differences between flight level and surface winds but it appears their ratio is wrong -OR- combined with the 8 min average vs the 1 min average the numbers are radically different.

I've always though the NHC should adjust the "estimated" winds down to true wind speed once they had good ground based data (buoys or other known calibrated weather stations). However they seem to stick with flight level winds. I do believe some of this is CYA, better to estimate high then to give people a false sense of security with a Cat lower forecast. In the past I've seen report of gusts, micro bursts, mini-tornados, down drafts and other small-scale higher intensity winds in certain areas due localized environmental conditions during land falling 'canes.

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South FL Native... experienced many tropical systems, put up the panels for:
David 79 - Floyd 87 - Andrew 92 - Georges 98 - Frances 04 - Wilma 05 - Matthew 16 - Irma 17
Lost our St James City rental property to Ian 22


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* Harvey Makes Landfall at Cat 4 MikeCAdministrator Fri Aug 25 2017 12:23 PM
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. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas JMII   Fri Aug 25 2017 11:13 PM
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. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas JMII   Fri Aug 25 2017 09:11 PM
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. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas Prospero   Fri Aug 25 2017 07:43 PM
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. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas JMII   Fri Aug 25 2017 05:47 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas Psyber   Fri Aug 25 2017 05:29 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas JMII   Fri Aug 25 2017 05:03 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 25 2017 04:51 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas Psyber   Fri Aug 25 2017 04:44 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Now a Major Hurricane cieldumortModerator   Fri Aug 25 2017 04:35 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Nearly a Major Hurricane This Morning MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 25 2017 02:40 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Nearly a Major Hurricane This Morning BloodstarModerator   Fri Aug 25 2017 01:22 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas BloodstarModerator   Fri Aug 25 2017 12:55 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 25 2017 12:41 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas cieldumortModerator   Fri Aug 25 2017 12:41 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas JMII   Fri Aug 25 2017 12:23 PM
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. * * Re: Hurricane Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas Myles   Fri Aug 25 2017 09:55 AM
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. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 25 2017 12:07 AM
. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf MikeCAdministrator   Thu Aug 24 2017 09:23 PM
. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 24 2017 04:53 PM
. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf MikeCAdministrator   Thu Aug 24 2017 03:06 PM
. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf cieldumortModerator   Thu Aug 24 2017 01:26 PM
. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf Psyber   Thu Aug 24 2017 01:13 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas MikeCAdministrator   Thu Aug 24 2017 11:41 AM
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. * * Re: Tropical Storm Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas cieldumortModerator   Thu Aug 24 2017 10:21 AM
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. * * Re: Tropical Storm Harvey Strengthening and Approaching Texas cieldumortModerator   Thu Aug 24 2017 07:56 AM
. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf MikeCAdministrator   Thu Aug 24 2017 07:50 AM
. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf cieldumortModerator   Thu Aug 24 2017 12:10 AM
. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf MikeCAdministrator   Wed Aug 23 2017 10:10 PM
. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf MikeCAdministrator   Wed Aug 23 2017 05:31 PM
. * * Re: Harvey Regenerates for Gulf Watches/Warnings up for Western Gulf cieldumortModerator   Wed Aug 23 2017 11:55 AM
. * * Re: Remnants of Harvey Likely to Regenerate in the Gulf MikeCAdministrator   Wed Aug 23 2017 11:46 AM
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. * * Re: Remnants of Harvey Likely to Regenerate in the Gulf MikeCAdministrator   Wed Aug 23 2017 07:52 AM
. * * Re: Remnants of Harvey Likely to Regenerate in the Gulf Nick Humphrey   Wed Aug 23 2017 02:30 AM

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