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Clark
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Hurricane Katrina Landfalls near the Dade/Broward County Line
      #49672 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:21 PM

11PM
Katrina remains a hurricane, and is now over the Florida Everglades. The current forecast track takes it a little more toward the west and southwest and out into the gulf early tomorrow morning, and then eventually turning north and toward the Florida pnahandle. The cone of error puts it close to the west coast as well, so some rain may be felt for the next few days.


(We and Skeetobite are looking for feedback on maps, let us know here)

It's moved a bit quicker across the state that the earlier forecasts suggested, and further south and west. This will enable the storm to be out over the Gulf quicker, and although the Everglades can't sustain a storm, it can keep it from weakening as rapidly as it would over dry land. That seems to be happening with Katrina. If the core holds together until it returns into the Gulf it could reach major hurricane status when it moves back over the water. In fact, even some of the usually more conservative models bring it to major hurricane status when it is back into the Gulf.

Katrina has been one of the more interesting storms to track in quite a while, and probably will remain so over the next few days as attention turns toward the Panhandle and northern Gulf coast.

See more detailed discussions below in the Blogs from Clark, etc.

9PM Update
Katrina remains a hurricane at 9PM, it's center is very close to the National Hurricane Center office, and continues on it's west to west southwest motion.

Power is out across the area, including in Metro Miami.

8PM Update
Strong Tropical Storm/Minimal Hurricane Conditions were felt along the landfall area, including a 90mph wind recording in Miami. One confirmed fatality has occurred on the roads of the area with another unconfirmed fatality being reported so far. The storm is enough inland to start weakening now, and it's showing some signs of that.

Beyond tonight, it may slide a bit more west southwest and emerge back in the Gulf around Naples. After that, it has a pretty good shot at restrengthening and probably bending back toward the Panhandle or Northwestern Florida. The current track would suggest near Apalachicola. It will take some time for Katrina to cross the state. Sometime late tomorrow. We'll be watching it all night. Let us know if you are in the affected areas in the Situation Report topic.

7PM Update
Hurricane Katrina has made official landfall between North Miami Beach and Hallendale as an 80MPH Category 1 hurricane.
11PM Update

6PM Update



This radar image live


The center of Katrina is still just offshore, and amazingly seems to be drifting a bit to the south or stalling, still increasing in strength. This is very interesting situation developing here. Wobbles you usually ignore, but when the center is within 20 miles of land, it's a bit different.



It appears to still be strengthening and slowing even more.

More updates to come soon.

Jim Williams, from Hurricane City and West Palm Beach, will be doing his live audio show likely tomorrow as Rita approaches on hurricanecity. Listen here

Ross from Suncam.tv is streaming video and webcams from the landfall area

Marc Sudduth will likely also be in the area see his live streaming video and audio here

Reply and let us know of other links.

Event Related Links
General Links
Report Katrina conditions in your area/read other's reports at this link (registration not required).

StormCarib hurricane reports from observers in the Islands
Caribbean Island Weather Reports
Color Sat of Gulf
RAMSDIS high speed visible Floater of Storms

Emergency Management/County info
Broward County Emergency Management
Palm Beach County emergency managment
Miami-Dade County Emergency Management
State of Florida Division of Emergency Management/floridadisaster.org

Katrina

Google Map plot of Katrina

Visible Floater Satellite of Katrina
Water Vapor Floater of Katrina
Visible Satellite Floater of Katrina with storm track overlays
Animated model plots of Katrina
Spaghetti Model Plot of Katrina from Colorado State
Bahamas Radar

Florida Keys Long Range Radar Loop
Miami, FL Long Range Radar
Melbourne, FL Long Range Radar

Forecast Discussions for (Show All Locations):
Miami, Key West, Melbourne

Invest 97L


NRL-Monterey Satellite Data on 97L
METEOSAT-8 imagery over Europe & Africa from the Univ. of Wisconsin
Animated model plots of 97L

Edited by MikeC (Sun Sep 18 2005 11:33 PM)


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ralphfl
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: Clark]
      #49675 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:25 PM

http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/guidance/atlantic/early2.png

New 18Z runs are out


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Justin in Miami
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: Clark]
      #49676 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:25 PM

Greetings from Ft. Lauderdale! Does anyone think this will push a higher Category than a 1? Looks like the dry air might save the day down here...things sure are picking up though....sparks on powerlines in my neihborhood....

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ralphfl
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #49677 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:27 PM

i dont see it as it is way too close to land to get to Cat 2 but you can't say 100% but unlikely.

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SirCane
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #49678 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:30 PM

Notice how these models are shifting to the West now more toward Mobile. Here we go again. Ivan, Dennis. Now Katrina. Why am I not surprised. It's Hurricane Alley here these days in the Mobile/Pensacola region.

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Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: SirCane]
      #49681 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:34 PM

One model has it going like Charley, sort of. Not even making it to the gulf. How is this possible?

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Ryan
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MM5FSU [Re: Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser]
      #49682 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:35 PM

The MM5fsu model plots are interesting. They have Katrina going over south florida then riding the west coast of florida thn crossing florida again and exiting by the FL/GA border line. Then if you look at the 120 hours on the FSU models they have invest 97L developing being justt east of Bermuda, then there is a system in its path right between the lesser antilles and the cape verde islands and a little northward, AND a system coming of the African coast. At 120 hours they all look to have a pressure of 1000-1008. Should Be interesting once we are finally done with Katrina wether that man another eastern turn back over florida, or Pensacola-Mobile-Gulfport 2nd landfall.

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Clark
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: SirCane]
      #49683 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:35 PM

Don't get down yet...it's just one set of model runs and things can and do change with these storms. As noted before, however, slow variations in forward motion are going to result in pretty big deviations in the track. The trough appears to be well-forecast in terms of when, where, and how strong, leading to the forecast largely becoming one of timing (IMO). Note that unless Katrina gets really strong, it'll have a natural tendency as a larger storm to move further nortward than perhaps expected...not a lot, of course, but something to consider if anyone thinks the storm will become a strong/major hurricane.

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ralphfl
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser]
      #49684 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:35 PM

Maybe a old model but i see none right now that show that1 The same line as always LINK! would help.

Edited by ralphfl (Thu Aug 25 2005 04:36 PM)


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Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: ralphfl]
      #49685 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:38 PM

look at the model at the beginning of this thread. There is one track showing that.

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ralphfl
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: Clark]
      #49686 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:38 PM

Clark when is it going to have time to get that? its about to hit land for over a day then when out over the gulf by the time it gets to cat 2 or whatever it will be way north or west already no?

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ralphfl
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: Wanna-Be-Storm-Chaser]
      #49687 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:39 PM

that was a old run from early today.None of the latest models have that in it.Does not mean it cant but none are showing that right now.

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ralphfl
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: ralphfl]
      #49688 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:41 PM

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/at200512.marine.html

5PM coming out At 5 PM EDT...a tropical storm watch has been issued for portions
the Florida West Coast from north of Longboat Key to Anclote Key. A
tropical storm watch remains in effect for the east-central Florida
coast from north of Vero Beach to Titusville... including all of
Merritt Island. A tropical storm watch means that tropical storm
conditions are possible within the watch area... generally within
36 hours.

Hurricane center located near 26.1n 79.9w at 25/2100z
position accurate within 15 nm


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Susan in Jupiter, FL
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: Clark]
      #49689 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:42 PM

When exactly is it "legally" considered to "make landfall"? Because it sure looks like the western side of the eye wall is on land at this time.

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ralphfl
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: ralphfl]
      #49690 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:43 PM

present movement toward the west or 265 degrees at 5 kt

estimated minimum central pressure 985 mb
eye diameter 10 nm
Max sustained winds 65 kt with gusts to 80 kt.


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ralphfl
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: ralphfl]
      #49691 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:45 PM

the new track is a little more west but not much only out to 85 west which is about .5 more then the last which was out to 84.5 so they did not change much but did speed it up some.

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Ryan
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Katrina's Got A Thing For The Cities [Re: ralphfl]
      #49692 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:47 PM

it seems as if Katrina wants to stop at the cities if shes in town..cities like Ft. Lauderdale, Ft. Meyers, and the if she follows Skeeto's maps Tallahassee, the capital. what do peopel think of my post further up the board about MM5FSU.

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Rick on boat in Mobile
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appears to have jogged and stalled... [Re: Ryan]
      #49693 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:50 PM

and it wouldn't suprise me if she heads a little due south of west. Interestingly, if she stays a bit more south...and exits south of Everglades City...she escapes more land than if north....

which would lead to less weakening, etc...

models should punch somewhat left now....


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Storm Hunter
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Re: Katrina A Hurricane, Nears Landfall [Re: ralphfl]
      #49696 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:54 PM

URNT10 KNHC 252036
97779 20304 50253 82700 73200 04024 65701 /5761
RMK AF300 WXWXA 05082520300 OB 01


this plane flew all the way to south fla... and then had computer problems and had to abort at midnight.... looks like they are on a trainning mission....testing equipment near mobile right now.....gettting ready for late friday night? Katrina should be in GOM by then

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Clark
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Re: appears to have jogged and stalled... [Re: Rick on boat in Mobile]
      #49697 - Thu Aug 25 2005 04:56 PM

Rick, if that happens further, then perhaps. But, they've already got the westward motion at a slightly faster speed into their output and have already shifted somewhat west. It still should slow down over Florida -- it is entering a col region and about the only thing moving it right now is inertial momentum and reorganization wobbles -- but given the slightly faster track, the NHC decided to shift the 5p track a bit further to the left. We'll see if this is a trend or not; given the wishy-washy tendency of the models, chances are that it might not be.

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