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Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit
      Thu Sep 09 2004 08:56 PM

11PM
Ivan is holding at a category 4 level for now. The track remains very similar to the 5PM. The current forecast track has it skirting along the west coast of Florida into the big bend, but again even a slight error really can change this.

The good news is that shear is expected to develop so we may have another storm that weakens right before any landfall, but the otuflow is so good right now, it may not weaken as much as I'd hope. Intensity forecasts are by far the most prone to error, and this will have to be watched.

Original Update
Hurricane Ivan is back to Category 4, after an impressive run earlier today as a category 5.

It's expected to fluctuate in intensity, and again, the forecast track has moved a bit to the left. However the longer term forecast is still quite uncertain. It will be interesting to watch the model trends.



It may be going through a double eyewall cycle, which would explain the weaker winds. This would allow it to restrengthen once again once this cycle is over.

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Also, Tropical depression 10 has already came and went, it's now has dissipated.

More to come later today.

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* Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit MikeCAdministrator Thu Sep 09 2004 08:56 PM
. * * Thanks Sadie   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:17 AM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit captgene   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:26 AM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit captgene   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:54 AM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit/where this crap going? slwfreez   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:03 AM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit Bioman   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:29 AM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit BeachBum   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:49 AM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit Bioman   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:22 AM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit kelcot   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:57 AM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit kelcot   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:33 AM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit okiherdu   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:17 PM
. * * Map update SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:36 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit Clark   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:11 PM
. * * For what it's worth... Clark   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:14 AM
. * * Re: For what it's worth... Rasvar   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:24 AM
. * * Re: For what it's worth... wezman1   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:28 AM
. * * Re: For what it's worth... MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:34 AM
. * * Re: For what it's worth... Clark   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:29 AM
. * * Supplies in Manatee County Gone Bev   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:39 AM
. * * Re: Supplies in Manatee County Gone Clark   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:50 AM
. * * Re: Supplies in Manatee County Gone robynsmom   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:16 AM
. * * Re: Supplies in Manatee County Gone kelcot   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:58 AM
. * * Hmmmm StormHound   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:08 AM
. * * Re: Hmmmm Clark   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:22 AM
. * * Re: Hmmmm Rasvar   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:41 AM
. * * Re: Hmmmm BillD   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:47 AM
. * * Re: Hmmmm scottsvb1   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:44 AM
. * * Scottsvb StormHound   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:06 AM
. * * Re: Scottsvb StormHound   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:09 AM
. * * Re: Hmmmm BillD   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:52 AM
. * * Re: Hmmmm MikeCAdministrator   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:55 AM
. * * S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? MIAMIFL   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:51 AM
. * * Re: S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? Clark   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:06 AM
. * * Re: S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? MikeCAdministrator   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:15 AM
. * * Maps SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:22 AM
. * * Re: Maps Bev   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:12 AM
. * * Re: Maps rule   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:42 AM
. * * Re: Maps belleami   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:53 AM
. * * Re: Maps Bev   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:05 AM
. * * Re: Lived in Florida BeachBum   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:12 AM
. * * Re: Maps Terry Johnson   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:59 AM
. * * Re: Maps Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:34 AM
. * * Re: Maps Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:23 AM
. * * Re: Maps SirCane   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:36 AM
. * * Re: Maps mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:00 AM
. * * Re: Maps ewilby   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:24 AM
. * * Re: Maps Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:08 AM
. * * Re: Maps mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:21 AM
. * * Re: Maps Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:43 AM
. * * Re: Maps mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:56 AM
. * * Re: Maps Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 06:08 AM
. * * Tampa Bay Area - Flood Waters Bev   Fri Sep 10 2004 06:02 AM
. * * Re: Maps scottsvb1   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:44 AM
. * * Re: Maps meto   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:44 AM
. * * Re: The Layout javlin   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:06 AM
. * * Re: The Layout SirCane   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:18 AM
. * * Re: Accu wx javlin   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:33 AM
. * * Re: Maps SirCane   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:27 AM
. * * Re: Maps juniorgirl   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:52 AM
. * * Re: Maps scottsvb1   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:29 AM
. * * Re: Maps sullynole   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:33 AM
. * * Tired of hurricanes... Clark   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:09 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:17 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Clark   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:21 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:48 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... andy1tom   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:50 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:26 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... BillD   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:31 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Clark   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:19 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... andy1tom   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:24 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:35 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... andy1tom   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:42 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Kimster   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:41 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:54 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:09 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... ewilby   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:34 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:49 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Sissy   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:52 AM
. * * Model Shift Bev   Fri Sep 10 2004 06:12 AM
. * * Re: Model Shift scottsvb1   Fri Sep 10 2004 06:38 AM
. * * I need to go back to bed Rasvar   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:30 AM
. * * Re: I need to go back to bed recmod   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:34 AM
. * * Re: I need to go back to bed GuppieGrouper   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:41 AM
. * * Re: I need to go back to bed Rasvar   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:51 AM
. * * Wind Field Maps Justin in Miami   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:25 PM
. * * Re: Model Shift seems in agreement bobbi   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:30 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:58 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:48 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 10 2004 05:59 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... BillD   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:27 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... belleami   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:33 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... scottsvb1   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:35 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:36 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... jaybythebay   Fri Sep 10 2004 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 04:08 AM
. * * Re: S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? BillD   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:58 AM
. * * Re: S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? scottsvb1   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:53 AM
. * * Re: S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? scottsvb1   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:56 AM
. * * Re: Hmmmm StormHound   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:40 AM
. * * Re: Hmmmm rule   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:15 AM
. * * Re: Ivan possible postponements Jeffmidtown   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:49 AM
. * * Re: Supplies in Manatee County Gone Rasvar   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:46 AM
. * * Re: For what it's worth... Martha   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:36 AM
. * * Ever so slightly shifting west.... is this a trend? Frank P   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:09 PM
. * * Re: Ever so slightly shifting west.... is this a trend? Colleen A.   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:18 PM
. * * GFS Model VolusiaMike   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:35 PM
. * * Re: GFS Model MrSpock   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:47 PM
. * * Girls Lie too.... Frank P   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:35 PM
. * * Re: Girls Lie too.... MrSpock   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:46 PM
. * * Re: Girls Lie too.... Colleen A.   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:57 PM
. * * Re: Girls Lie too.... MrSpock   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:59 PM
. * * Latest Vortex recmod   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:53 PM
. * * Re: Latest Vortex Colleen A.   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:24 PM
. * * This was interesting belleami   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:34 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting DroopGB31   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:51 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting kelcot   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:00 AM
. * * Re: This was interesting Heather   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:06 AM
. * * Re: This was interesting BillD   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:28 AM
. * * Re: This was interesting Kevin   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:34 AM
. * * Re: This was interesting Heather   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:41 AM
. * * Re: This was interesting Terra   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:50 AM
. * * Re: This was interesting kelcot   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:04 AM
. * * Re: This was interesting HadItinOrlando   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:08 AM
. * * Re: This was interesting kelcot   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:21 AM
. * * Re: This was interesting kelcot   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:11 AM
. * * Here's your 8PM intermediate advisory... Kevin   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:05 AM
. * * Re: Here's your 8PM intermediate advisory... Kimster   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:16 AM
. * * Re: Here's your 8PM intermediate advisory... MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:08 AM
. * * Vortex translation Frank P   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:13 AM
. * * Models Jamiewx   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Models Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:04 AM
. * * Re: Models meto   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:28 AM
. * * Re: Vortex translation MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Vortex translation Rasvar   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:41 AM
. * * Re: Vortex translation Frank P   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:31 AM
. * * Re: Vortex translation MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:40 AM
. * * Re: Vortex translation BillD   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:54 AM
. * * Models Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:04 AM
. * * Re: Models wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:08 AM
. * * Re: Models andy1tom   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:39 AM
. * * Re: Vortex translation rd522525   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:38 AM
. * * Re: Vortex translation Kevin   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:28 AM
. * * Re: Latest Vortex Wxwatcher2   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:32 PM
. * * Grenada, Frances, Apprentice, RUReady for... LI Phil   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:23 PM
. * * Re: Grenada, Frances, Apprentice, RUReady for... Colleen A.   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:43 PM
. * * Re: Grenada, Frances, Apprentice, RUReady for... trinibaje   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:32 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit LI Phil   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:05 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit LI Phil   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:07 PM
. * * thanks for all the excellent discussion the gulf   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:55 PM
. * * Thoughts.... wxman007   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:14 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit Steve   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:12 PM

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