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Jeanine
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South East Florida [Re: LI Phil]
      #19748 - Fri Aug 13 2004 05:36 AM

Just wanted to give a little update. Here in Hollywood, FL it is thundering, lighting and starting to rain. I was watching the radar and went outside and could see the lighting in the distance and have been watching it. It is coming down as I type and we just got a really big wind gust. AMAZING
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LoisCane
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going off.. [Re: Clark]
      #19749 - Fri Aug 13 2004 05:37 AM

Going to watch the lightning show..and rain pounding against my south facing window and wonder why again and again this stuff happens...

talk incessantly about the eye but dont focus on where strong weather will hit..etc...

good luck everyone...
not even going to discuss whats annoying me..
cant believe this happens all the time, over and over...

area twice the mass of the eye (which is a strong eye but small) is headed off to NE over South Florida.. hope the small little eye misses Key West

and hope 2 am is honest and says movement just west of due north

and that the winds eventually match the low pressure reading

nite
hey bad cell in naples too...watch out

bobbi
you know...all day...all day in miami they gave approximate times for landfall in key west, off havana but no one did forecasts for when first bands would come through and they didnt issue the tropical storm watches until after the kids all went down to miami beach or elsewhere...

rain sounds great, heavy and steady
nite

oh and happy birthday fidel

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Re: OBSERVATION [Re: Unregistered User]
      #19750 - Fri Aug 13 2004 05:38 AM

Best guess, using the above link, at the highest scan, It measures out around 7 miles but it's hard to do with pixels. I'm sure it's bigger than that. The rings on the radar are at 62nm and 124nm. You can use that as a reference.

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Tropics Guy
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Re: South East Florida [Re: Jeanine]
      #19751 - Fri Aug 13 2004 05:46 AM

BAD conditions here in Ft Lauderdale, huge squall line moving through, brief tropical storm force gusts, rain is pounding us right now & frequent lightning.

TG


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Re: last 30min [Re: Tropics Guy]
      #19752 - Fri Aug 13 2004 05:51 AM

based on rad pix.... storm is still moving a little west of due north,

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Re: last 30min [Re: Anonymous]
      #19753 - Fri Aug 13 2004 05:56 AM

HURRICANE Charley INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 15A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2 AM EDT FRI AUG 13 2004

...HURRICANE Charley CROSSING CUBA IN HURRY...EYE OVER WESTERN
HAVANA...ABOUT TO MOVE OVER THE FLORIDA STRAITS...

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM THE
DRY TORTUGAS TO THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE...AND FOR THE FLORIDA WEST
COAST FROM EAST CAPE SABLE NORTHWARD TO THE MOUTH OF THE SUWANNEE
RIVER. A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
PREPARATIONS SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

A HURRICANE WARNING ALSO REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FOLLOWING
PROVINCES OF WESTERN CUBA...PINAR DEL RIO...LA HABANA...CIUDAD DE
LA HABANA...MATANZAS...AND THE ISLE OF YOUTH.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS FROM
THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE TO OCEAN REEF...AND ALONG THE SOUTH FLORIDA
MAINLAND FROM OCEAN REEF TO EAST CAPE SABLE...INCLUDING FLORIDA BAY.
A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR LAKE OKEECHOBEE.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEASTERN U. S. COAST
FROM OCEAN REEF NORTHWARD TO SOUTH SANTEE RIVER SOUTH CAROLINA.

KEY WEST AND CUBAN RADAR INDICATE THAT AT 2 AM EDT...0600Z...THE EYE
OF HURRICANE Charley WAS LOCATED OVER CUBA NEAR LATITUDE 23.0
NORTH...LONGITUDE 82.6 WEST ABOUT 14 MILES...22 KM...WEST OF
DOWNTOWN HAVANA.

CHARLEY IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 14 MPH...22 KM/HR.
A TURN TOWARD THE NORTH IS EXPECTED TODAY. THIS MOTION SHOULD BRING
THE EYE OF Charley AROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO TOWARD THE
FLORIDA WEST COAST LATER TODAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 105 MPH...165 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. THIS MAKES Charley A CATEGORY TWO HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST
DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...AND Charley IS FORECAST TO BE A MAJOR
HURRICANE AS IT APPROACHES THE FLORIDA WEST COAST.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 30 MILES... 45 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 125 MILES...205 KM. HAVANA AIRPORT RECENTLY REPORTED GUSTS TO 58
MPH...93 KM/HR.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE RESERVE
HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT IS 973 MB...28.73 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 10 TO 14 FEET IS PROBABLY BEING EXPERIENCED
ALONG THE SOUTH COAST OF CUBA NEAR AND EAST OF WHERE THE CENTER
MADE LANDFALL. THE SURGE SHOULD GRADUALLY SUBSIDE AS THE HURRICANE
MOVES AWAY FROM CUBA.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 2 TO 4 FEET...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED IN THE FLORIDA KEYS. STORM SURGE
FLOODING OF 10 TO 13 FEET IS ALSO POSSIBLE NEAR AND SOUTH OF THE
WHERE THE CENTER CROSSES THE FLORIDA WEST COAST.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES ARE LIKELY IN ASSOCIATION WITH
CHARLEY. THESE RAINS COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN FLORIDA
PENINSULA AND THE FLORIDA KEYS TONIGHT.

REPEATING THE 2 AM EDT POSITION...23.0 N... 82.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 14 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...105
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 973 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE National Hurricane Center AT
5 AM EDT.

FORECASTER AVILA




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Jeffmidtown
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Re: last 30min [Re: Anonymous]
      #19754 - Fri Aug 13 2004 05:57 AM

From what I'm seeing on the latest radar from College of DuPage, I'm not liking the set-up. It could just be me, but Charley's eye has already cleared Cuba and is back in the gulf and if it's maintained it's strength, this could be bad. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone in the Florida and especially those in the path of this storm.....

Godspeed Sunshine State

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Justin in Miami
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Re: South East Florida [Re: Tropics Guy]
      #19755 - Fri Aug 13 2004 05:58 AM

Yes TropicsGuy....that was a VERY strong squall line....in a condo in North Miami area....cool to see 5 floors up...but if that continues I will reconsider staying in the morning....woke me right out of bed! Take care west coast!

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Re: 11 pm Disscusion [Re: Colleen A.]
      #19756 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:04 AM

Charley's half way across Cuba about to hit warm water again, inner core looks in solid shape. Good odds he going to crank up today.

For those who think you might be getting a little off topic, I will say you're doing just fine. Sometimes those of us from FL seem to get a bit jumpy at the first sign of a cloud, we do i guess. But we live with the fact that most of us have no where to run, there is no "higher" ground to go to. The NHC, the state of Florida, and soon the Federal government, are doing the best they can. The evacs in Tampa have gone pretty well, the call to make them when they did was outstanding. Some panic? Yes, but nothing like Floyd. Maybe we do learn from past mistakes every once in awhile. Just listen to the warnings and updates, do the right thing, protect yourself and loved ones, and everything will be cool.

At some point tomorrow, the rest of the board will notice groups of us not posting for a little while. Alot of us are going to be without power, but we'll be OK. I'm sure all of us will be back as soon as possible to let everyone else know firsthand what it was like. The Tampa/St. Pete area is going to get pounded, and many inland areas are going to take a hit. But there are alot of hardworking people here, and we'll get the place picked up and leave the light on so you can come see us ASAP.

For those of you in the Lakeland area, could you please make sure the Publix headquarters remains in one piece, since I count on them to cut me a check every week.

And thanks to all the Admins of this site, and to the small group who hung out at 3 in the morning tracking this thing. Good people, all of you.


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Anonymous
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Re: 11 pm Disscusion [Re: joepub1]
      #19757 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:07 AM

URNT11 KNHC 130508
97779 05084 60243 84118 30700 08020 04048 /3155
RMK AF980 0803A Charley OB 05


based on last few obs... recon is lowering in alt... meaning, eye is back over gulf.... get ready for vortex soon


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Re: RECON [Re: Anonymous]
      #19758 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:08 AM

URNT12 KNHC 130544
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 13/0540Z
B. 22 DEG 57 MIN N
82 DEG 38 MIN W
C. NA
D. NA
E. NA
F. 046 DEG 085 KT
G. 290 DEG 10 NM
H. NA
I. 5 C/ 3085 M
J. NA / 3083 M
K. NA / NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C18
N. 2345/7
O. 0.1/NA NM
P. AF980 0803A Charley OB 06
MAX FL WIND 85 KT NW QUAD 0538Z. RADAR ESTIMATE OF CENTER
OVER CUBAN COAST. MAX FL WIND OUTBOUND THRU NE QUAD 102 KT
0543Z.


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Colleen A.
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Re: OBSERVATION [Re: danielw]
      #19759 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:11 AM

ABC Action New in Tampa just did a phone interview with Charley Paxton from the NWS in Ruskin/Tampa Bay. He said that people who are not taking this seriously are putting their lives at risk by not heeding the warnings to leave. He also said that there will probably be only minor changes to the left or right and timing, but other than that, it's a Tampa Bay storm. He also said that depending on how intense the hurricane is when it nears our area, inland winds could be as high as 85-90 mph with higher gusts.

No major changes with the 2am advisory; it's almost out of Cuba and into very warm waters.

Bobbi...I know you're frustrated with the lateness of the advisories. Hope your kids are okay, and that you stay safe.

I've got to go to bed. Tomorrow is going to be a very long day/night.

God Bless and Good luck.........

Colleen

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Re: RECON [Re: Anonymous]
      #19760 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:12 AM

Incomplete observation. I guess Presidente Castro wouldn't let them overfly Cuba.

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Re: report [Re: danielw]
      #19761 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:17 AM

eye passed within 20 mile of havanna... wonder whats left?
wonder what wind recon will find? whats eveyone's guess? i say 110kts in ne quad


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Re: RECON [Re: danielw]
      #19762 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:20 AM

Thank you all, for being here and giving me your comments and observations. I simply can not fall asleep!

I'm right in the path of Charley (South Tampa peninsula) and am expecting to leaving my home at 6:00 a.m. to head for our "safe spot".

I must confess to being more than a little scared right now. I can't imagine how hard it's going to be leaving our house in a few hours and not knowing what in the world we will be coming back to.


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Re: RECON [Re: danielw]
      #19763 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:21 AM

looking at data... recon went from 85kts in NW quad to 102kts on a east track in 5min for winds at flight level

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Re: RECON [Re: Anonymous]
      #19764 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:23 AM

URNT11 KNHC 130609
97779 06090 60241 81300 30800 15051 04/// /3150
RMK AF980 0803A Charley OB 07


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Jeffmidtown
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Re: report [Re: Anonymous]
      #19765 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:24 AM

Just another observation from Atlanta, but in checking out the Drudge Report website, at the very top iin Red it says "Evacuate" all in caps.

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Re: 11 pm Disscusion [Re: joepub1]
      #19766 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:26 AM

I just wanted to post one last time before I go to bed. I appreciate each and every one of the people here. You are almost like family to me.

I am really on the verge of tears here because I don't know what's going to happen. I listened to Charley Paxton and he was so serious. ABC News Linda Gianaulli is almost in tears telling us about the seriousness of this storm. Her voice is shaky and she's trying really hard to put sentences together without a break in her voice. We rarely see the human side of a storm's impact, but when we do, as I am now, it's both breathtaking and heartbreaking at the same time. I don't know how or if my life will be any different on Sunday and I'm sure hoping it all of us in danger come out of this safely.

Two years ago today my father went into the hospital with heart palpitations and three months later he died. I miss him so much and I wish I could call him and talk to him right now.

I'm so sorry for going of topic, I just wanted to let you know how much you all mean to me.

Colleen

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Re: 11 pm Disscusion [Re: Colleen A.]
      #19767 - Fri Aug 13 2004 06:27 AM

Be safe, Colleen!

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