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GaryC
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Re: Closing time [Re: Clark]
      #24828 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:40 PM

Hey clark, I for one am glad to see you post that. Cause I was real confused for a while. Thanks!

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Re: SLOSH map for Mobile [Re: LI Phil]
      #24829 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:41 PM

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Thanks I may need that

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Re: WV Loops [Re: tenavilla]
      #24830 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:43 PM

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If the course holds true and Venice through Tampa take a direct hit, it might be the $60 BILLION question. :-(

-Bev




You're exactly right. My husband is in construction here in Tampa and we were just talking about that. If the eye comes up the bay like they're forecasting now, we're in so much trouble. Frances caused a huge flooding problem and she was weak by the time she got here. Most of downtown is built to pre-Andrew codes, and all the electric is underground. During Charley they shut down the entire downtown power grid to avoid storm surge problems, although I'm not entirely sure that will completely alleviate the problem. I'm really frightened to think of what a hurricane this size can do to a major metropolitan area.





my parents live in evacuation level 3 in south tampa. During Frances water came within about 4 blocks of their house. If Ivan were to give a direct hit....i think everyone can just kiss the city of tampa goodbye.

The thing that really upsets me tho....is all the yuppies in south tampa that think the city has some kind of silver bullet. The night before we evacuated for Charley (i was down from UF b/w semesters at the time), the idiots were throwing PARTIES throughout the area. It's just ridiculous...

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Re: Hawaii has some pretty water vapor images [Re: Ed in Va]
      #24831 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:43 PM

Ivan and TD 10 really aren't linked...there is an upper low to the NE of Ivan that is helping to evacuate its outflow. To the NE of that, there is another smaller upper low, followed by yet another a bit to the NE of that by the Azores. This link will have no effect on the track of Ivan; the only impacts will likely be felt by what the larger upper low and a weaker vortex just NE of the Bahamas do to the subtropical ridge steering the storm, not any link to other systems well to the NE.

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Re: Closing time [Re: Clark]
      #24833 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:46 PM

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It is run every 6 hrs.

As an aside, confidence in the panhandle forecast is eroding with time as the pattern evolves, but I'm still sticking to my guns there...as is the Superensemble, like it has for 3 days now.



Clark, my personal psychic ensemble shows it bouncing off Steinhatchee, and ricocheting towards Tallahassee - don't you all have a super-collider over there too? How about trying to boiung! it back out in the Gulf?
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Re: Hawaii has some pretty water vapor images [Re: Clark]
      #24834 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:47 PM

good afternoon ya'll. I just got on the site for the first time today. And I'm sure that this question has been answered........ Are we looking at a Tampa hit or around a PCB hit? If he does make landfall in Tampa, any idea where he'll go from there? Is the east coast safe?

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Re: Hawaii has some pretty water vapor images [Re: Clark]
      #24835 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:48 PM

I lost track of former TD #10. Is that the swirl that is now at 30N 60W and racing westward?

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Re: WV Loops [Re: RMagic]
      #24836 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:48 PM

When I was a kid, I remember seeing a film strip in school showing the people who threw the hurricane party for Camille. Needless to say, what they experienced was far worse than any hangover they ever had.

Note on the new GFS: It is still farthest east, but the one thing it has been consistent on is parking it in the Carolinas. I'm not ready to buy that one yet either.

As far as Jamaica, Gilbert never weakened while crossing it, although it may have slowed down its rate of strengthening. I am not so sure it will have a big impact. As the last day has shown, the storm could weaken like that on its own. It does look like dry air got entrained, possibly a result of the land masses to its north. No new vortex messages out yet either.


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Re: Hurricane Ivan Paths [Re: MikeC]
      #24837 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:49 PM



A little later this time. Was out saving the world...

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Re: Tampa SLOSH map from Georges [Re: alley]
      #24838 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:50 PM

Not fun at all. I just moved into my house about a month ago over next to the bay. I've headed to Atlanta for the weekend and probably will wait to see if I'm heading back Sunday night. I'm just hoping my roommate/friend is able to head over to West Palm Saturday via the train, because I really wouldn't want her to be stuck in the house. Ugh. One month in the house. and all of this. No wonder I still consider Atlanta home

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Florida SLOSH Maps [Re: Bev]
      #24839 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:51 PM

I'll put up as many as I can find...

Collier County

CFHC links...scroll down and look at county info

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Re: WV Loops [Re: MrSpock]
      #24840 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:59 PM

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When I was a kid, I remember seeing a film strip in school showing the people who threw the hurricane party for Camille. Needless to say, what they experienced was far worse than any hangover they ever had.




yeah....my parents have told me stories about that storm. I just can't grasp the stupidity of some people..

Also - not that anyone cares but Gainesville got hit pretty hard by Frances. Lots of downed trees. At one point over 3/4ths of the county didn't have power. Sewage problems also occurred as many lift stations for sewage didn't have power. I can post pictures if anyone's interested....


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Re: Florida SLOSH Maps [Re: LI Phil]
      #24841 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:00 PM

If Ivan passes the Tampa Bays Area offshore what does that mean for the storm surge for Tampa and the surrounding barrier islands?

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Re: Florida SLOSH Maps [Re: MO stormspotter]
      #24842 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:04 PM

http://flhurricane.com/links.php

Follow the link LI Phil put up.... he is getting it as fast as he can.

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Re: WV Loops [Re: RMagic]
      #24843 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:05 PM

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Also - not that anyone cares but Gainesville got hit pretty hard by Frances. Lots of downed trees. At one point over 3/4ths of the county didn't have power. Sewage problems also occurred as many lift stations for sewage didn't have power. I can post pictures if anyone's interested....




My sister goes to UF(Go Gators!...lol) and she said it was pretty bad in some areas. She ended up losing power while I never did.

Anyway, 2pm update just out and Ivan has moved much further west than north. .3 degrees north and .7 degrees west. Winds are still 145mph, pressure is 939mb and winds extend out 60mi(hurr.)/175mi(t.s.)

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Re: Florida SLOSH Maps [Re: LI Phil]
      #24844 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:05 PM

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I'll put up as many as I can find...
Collier County





Thanks Phil! I'm still searching for Manatee SLOSH and wrote to the EOC here but they are probably far too busy to respond. I'll post it if I find one.

Thanks!
-Bev


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FSU ensemble vs The Models? [Re: Bev]
      #24845 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:07 PM

Isn't the NHC track really a case of walking between the two right now? And, in their own discussion earlier they indicated there was a great uncertainty down the road. Something about it could possibly at some point even go NNE?

Interested to see next set of runs.

And again.. see which model tracks are the most consistent over the long term.

Isn't it possible that as opposed to think the GFS set are garbage in and out that they see something and hang with it vs something the other models discount?

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Re: Florida SLOSH Maps [Re: MO stormspotter]
      #24846 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:08 PM

>>The night before we evacuated for Charley (i was down from UF b/w semesters at the time), the idiots were throwing PARTIES throughout the area. It's just ridiculous...

We've been known to party in New Orleans from time to time when hit by a hurricane. Then again, we've been known to party because it's Wednesday at 3:00

The story about the hurricane party on the MS was somewhat debunked in recent times. Snopes doesn't have anything on it, but I distinctly recall coming across some new information on that whole thing a few years back.

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Re: Florida SLOSH Maps [Re: LI Phil]
      #24847 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:08 PM

Here's one for your reference, Phil. It covers the entire state of South Carolina.

South Carolina SLOSH model

Click in the middle where it says "Flood Zones: Do you live in one?" This will give the SLOSH map for the entire state.

(Unfortunately you have to go this way. You can't just link directly to the map for some reason.)

Edited by Mozart (Fri Sep 10 2004 06:09 PM)


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Re: Florida SLOSH Maps [Re: Bev]
      #24848 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:15 PM

This isn't the most detailed map I've ever seen, but try this link:

Florida Disaster Public Maps


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