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AgentB
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Re: Florida SLOSH Maps [Re: Bev]
      #24849 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:16 PM

Surge maps for Volusia/Brevard/Indian River/St Lucie/Martin Counties. Try checking your local NWS site as I found these on the local NWS(Melbourne) site.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mlb/atlas.html

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New Vortex message [Re: tenavilla]
      #24850 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:17 PM

262
URNT12 KNHC 101738
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 10/1738Z
B. 16 DEG 45 MIN N
75 DEG 42 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2568 M
D. 90 KT
E. 111 DEG 016 NM
F. 183 DEG 112 KT
G. 095 DEG 010 NM
H. 940 MB
I. 9 C/ 3063 M
J. 17 C/ 3068 M
K. 10 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C16
N. 12345/07
O. .1/1 NM
P. AF984 1509A Ivan OB 07
MAX FL WIND 112 KT E QUAD 1735Z.

One difference that stands out vs. the last one, is that it now has a closed eyewall. Pressure is also the highest it has been in a while, but we'll see if it responds to the recent eyewall closing and convection.

Edited by MrSpock (Fri Sep 10 2004 06:19 PM)


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Re: New Vortex message [Re: MrSpock]
      #24851 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:19 PM

940 mb's good news.
let's hope the pressure keeps rising.


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Thanks everyone [Re: MrSpock]
      #24852 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:19 PM

You guys are doing better than I am...throw them all up here...they're bound to help someone.

Thank your newest Moderator, Storm Cooper, for this one.

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More and More West [Re: tenavilla]
      #24853 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:20 PM

Folks, if Ivan continues on the path he is currently on he is going to miss Jamaica to the south by a good margin. What changes, if any, could this mean for more of a panhandle or Alabama landfall? Or I guess it could also be more east as a landfall!?!?

What are you talking about? He's taking dead aim at the Island.

ShawnS

Edited by LI Phil (Fri Sep 10 2004 06:21 PM)


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Re: More and More West [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #24854 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:23 PM

I think it is too early to tell. It could be a wobble, or an ERC. The models don't seem to have changed much yet. Here is the model run discussion from this morning:
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/pmdhmd.html


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Re: More and More West [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #24855 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:25 PM

I thought yesterday the storm would go south of Jamaica about 60-100 miles...and now...it looks like that is correct. As I fear, the WORST CASE SCENARIO for us is for the storm to traverse the Yucatan Channel...

what are the "experts" saying now?


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Re: More and More West [Re: rickonboat]
      #24856 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:29 PM

overlaying the forecast plots onto the satellite, and it looks to be right where projected.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-ir4-loop.html


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Re: More and More West [Re: rickonboat]
      #24857 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:30 PM

This map shows storm surge for a hurricane hitting Mobile Bay. Notice that it shows how much destruction a CAT V would cause...

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li phil [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #24858 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:31 PM

What's your deal with all the edits? Are you getting power hungry or something? The last couple of hrs certainly shows a more westerly track and I'm not the only one who is seeing it. If it DOES CONTINUE this the eye will go south of Jamaica.

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Re: ERC [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #24859 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:33 PM

I hate to bother you weather brains out there, but can someone tell me what an "SST" is? Thanks

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Re: More and More West [Re: rickonboat]
      #24860 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:33 PM

If it is going 60-100 miles south of Jamica, then someone just moved the island 60-100 miles north. Think you need new glasses on this one, riconaboat.

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Re: ERC [Re: Kdubs]
      #24861 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:35 PM

Sea Surface Temps

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Re: ERC [Re: Kdubs]
      #24862 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:35 PM

Quote:

I hate to bother you weather brains out there, but can someone tell me what an "SST" is? Thanks




Depends on the context, but probably sea surface temperature.

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NWS Tampa Discussion [Re: Rasvar]
      #24863 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:35 PM

Kdub, SST stands for Sea Surface Temperature.

Note the discussion says the center will skirt jamaica's south coast.

Here is some of the NWS Tampa Bay Discussion from this afternoon.

".LONG TERM (SUN NIGHT - FRI)...IN GENERAL...IT'S NOT A MATTER OF WHERE...OR PERHAPS WHEN...AS MODEL SOLUTIONS CONTINUE TO CONVERGE. THE WHERE IS...FOR THE FOURTH TIME THIS SEASON(BONNIE/CHARLEY/FRANCES/IVAN)...THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THE WHEN IS MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT DEPENDING ON WHICH PART OF THE STATE YOU LIVE. HOWEVER...AS WITH Charley...THE EVENTUAL PRECISE TRACK IS STILL UNCERTAIN...BUT A GENERAL NORTH HEADING MEANS THE STORM COULD LANDFALL ANYWHERE ON THE PENINSULA WITH JUST A NUDGE.

THE OMINOUS SIGNS POINT TO THE EASTERN GULF COAST ANYWHERE FROM THE KEYS TO THE BIG BEND AS SYSTEM CONTINUES TO TRACK WNW. APPEARS RESTRENGTHENING INNER EASTERN EYEWALL WILL POUND JAMAICA THIS EVENING AS THE CENTER SKIRTS THE ISLAND'S SOUTH COAST...THEN A SLIGHTLY SLOWER...BUT STILL STEADY...MOTION WILL ENSUE AS IT EASES TOWARD THE WESTERN CUBA COAST BY EARLY SUNDAY.

AT THAT TIME...WE SHOULD KNOW WHETHER THE STORM WILL MAKE LANDFALL ON THE PENINSULA OR PERHAPS IN THE BIG BEND REGION. NOGAPS AND NOGAPS INITIALIZED MODELS SUGGEST THIS POSSIBILITY...BUT CONSENSUS AND ENSEMBLES LEAN TOWARD THE PENINSULA. BASED ON WATER VAPOR...WHICH SHOWS THE END OF THE WESTWARD EXPANSION OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE AND THE REMNANT TROUGHING FROM Frances...AM AFRAID THE STORM WILL CIRCLE THE PERIPHERY AND LAND SOMEWHERE ON THE SUNCOAST BEFORE EDGING NNE.

FOR INTEREST...THIS HAS MANY EARMARKS OF Charley (NOT GOOD) BUT IS LARGER AND MORE ORGANIZED...MEANING IT HAS POTENTIAL TO CREATE A WIDER WIND DAMAGE SWATH AS WELL AS HEAVIER RAINS (WORSE!). ONE POSSIBLE SAVING GRACE IS THAT THE SYSTEM MAY ENCOUNTER SOME SHEAR AS IT APPROACHES ON MONDAY...PERHAPS REDUCING THE CORE WINDS SOMEWHAT. BUT THAT WON'T STOP THE RAIN...WHICH WILL BE THE LONG TERM PROBLEM."

Edited by Jamiewx (Fri Sep 10 2004 06:41 PM)


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Re: ERC [Re: Kdubs]
      #24864 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:35 PM

Quote:

I hate to bother you weather brains out there, but can someone tell me what an "SST" is? Thanks




Sea Surface Temperature.

LOL...looks like I was about 5 posts too late.

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Edited by AgentB (Fri Sep 10 2004 06:37 PM)


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Re: li phil [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #24865 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:36 PM

I agree the eye looks like it may go South of Jamaica.
this is a good thing for the Island.
Whats the problem?


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definitely on a more westerly track ya'll [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #24866 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:37 PM

Appreciate that map of Mobile, LI Phil...thanks..

Yeah, anyone who gets this hurricane..gets big problems....

will miss Jamaica, mon...and glad of that...

hey, maybe it will get into the gulf...stall...and die...

who knows...


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Re: ERC [Re: Kdubs]
      #24867 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:38 PM

sea surface temperature.

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Re: li phil [Re: SoonerShawn]
      #24868 - Fri Sep 10 2004 06:39 PM

If the definition of going south of the island means the center stays a few miles off shore, then yes, it may go south and miss the island. However, the eyewall appears almost certain to scrape the heck out of the south coast. In my book, since that is where the winds are, it is a hit.

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