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Katrina Aftermath
      #52272 - Mon Aug 29 2005 07:52 PM

Information on how to help folks in the affected areas can be found here. Offer your own suggestions as well.

Tropical Depression #13 has been declassified earlier in the day, and is no longer being tracked by the Hurricane Center.

Hurricane Katrina is now a Tropical Storm, and as it moves up through the middle of the US dropping heavy rain and gusty winds, the survey and cleanup of the area.

This was the fourth strongest storm to make US landfall, behind Camille, the Labor Day hurricane in the Keys, and Andrew, based on pressure at landfall.

As the aftermath is realized (and I don't think we will know much until tomorrow or later in the week) Storm Surge was a huge problem east of the eye, and winds were strong enough to tear up some structures.

There are portions of New Orleans that were flooded, mainly on the eastern side and Lower 9th ward. Some are on roofs, trees, etc.

Points East, Gulfport, major storm surge, Mobile Bay, downtown flooded by surge...

If you have any doubts to how bad this system was compared to other majors I'd ask you to take a look at the video that Mark Sudduth has put up on hurricanetrack.com.

Also New Orleans is in bigger trouble than many first thought.

See this video clip of Mayor Nagin's (of New Orleans) midnight report Here (wwltv)

More to come as we learn it.


(We and Skeetobite are looking for feedback on maps, let us know here)


Event Related Links
General Links
Report Katrina conditions in your area/read other's reports at this link (registration not required).
Color Sat of Gulf
RAMSDIS high speed visible Floater of Storms

Graphic showing elevations of New Orleans

Emergency Management/County info
Gulf Coast Storm Alert Network
FloridaDisaster.org - Florida Emergency Management
Mississippi Emer. Management
State of Florida Division of Emergency Management/floridadisaster.org
Louisiana Emergency Management

Video/Audio Links
NOAA Weather Radio out of New Orleans
Hurricane City - Live Audio and Video
HurricaneTrack/Mark Sudduth HIRT Team

Television/Radio
WWL TV 4 (CBS Affiliate in New Orleans) - KHOU is streaming WWL TV as well HERE
ABC 26 TV (ABC Affiliate in New Orleans)
WDSU Channel 6 (NBC Affiliate New Orleans)
Fox 8 (New Orleans)
WTIX 690 News Radio
WWL 870 News Radio
WTOK 11 / Missippii Alabama ABC Affiliate -- Jason Kelly is assisting Operations Here [url=mms://a1558.l1207832090.c12078.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1558/12078/v0001/reflector:32090Video stream from here[/url]
Hurricane Now - Video reports from former CNN hurrican reporter Jeff Flock
Weathervine.com
Joseph Johnston's Mobile Bay Webcam
WKRG 5 in Mobile/Pensacola
WPMI Channel 15 from Mobile

Other
NOLA - Everything New Orleans
South Mississippi Sun Herald
Al.com - everything Alabama - Katrina Photos

-- Looking for more Video/Audio links for the approach areas, please let us know if you have any links/information!

Katrina

Google Map plot of Katrina
Hurricane Camille and Hurricane Katrina plotted on a google map

Visible Floater Satellite of Katrina
Water Vapor Floater of Katrina
Visible Satellite Floater of Katrina with storm track overlays
Animated model plots of Katrina
Spaghetti Model Plot of Katrina from Colorado State

Mobile, AL Long Range Radar
New Orleans, LA Long Range Radar

Forecast Discussions for (Show All Locations):
Miami, Key West, New Orleans, Mobile

Former TD#13

Animated model plots of Former TD#13

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LI Phil
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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: MikeC]
      #52273 - Mon Aug 29 2005 07:55 PM

>>> Tropical Depression #13 has been declassified earlier in the day, and is no longer being tracked by the Hurricane Center.

best damn news i've heard all day...

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collegemom
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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: LI Phil]
      #52274 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:01 PM

I am on your side-- thanks for a great job Phil, Mike, Ed--you guys do a wonderful service. Now we just get to get it all back in place. Tomorrow I send my package. Kevin

Edited by collegemom (Mon Aug 29 2005 08:03 PM)


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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: LI Phil]
      #52275 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:01 PM

Quote:

>>> Tropical Depression #13 has been declassified earlier in the day, and is no longer being tracked by the Hurricane Center.

best damn news i've heard all day...




ain't that the truth Phil!

now the clean up begins.. i hope for the best for those in Louisiana and Mississippi

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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: trinibaje]
      #52276 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:03 PM

I just saw aerial video of New Orleans..the flooding is much worse than they originally thought..as far as the eye could see was water..the estimates of 40,000 homes under water was not exagerated..it was incredible to see!

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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: trinibaje]
      #52277 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:03 PM

Not to mention Alabama, which may have been hit by surge in Mobile harder than anywhere else, considering their inability to handle the water. Also, extreme western FL panhandle took some heavy flooding as well.

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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: LI Phil]
      #52278 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:08 PM

Potentially good news, yes. Surely you can remember back a week or so to a short-lived TD-10.

I'm sure tomorrow morning and the light of a new day will show how terrible a Cat 4 landfall can be. I'm not looking forward to it myself.


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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: tpratch]
      #52279 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:10 PM

CNN is showing live pictures from a helicopter now...for those who want to see it

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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: pcola]
      #52280 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:18 PM

Wow... we have a 965mb tropical storm. That is interesting.

On that idea of a considerably low pressure in comparison to windspeed... is it really fair to call Katrina 'more intense' than Andrew at landfall based on barometric pressure alone? Not to discredit the storm... which very well may supercede Andrew in another area as the most destructive hurricane in history, but this just seems awkward. I suppose at this juncture it is irrelivant.

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Edited by Lysis (Mon Aug 29 2005 08:19 PM)


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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: Lysis]
      #52281 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:21 PM

both Andrew and Katrina were (are) unique and will be remembered for a very long time.
they both fit the Catastrophic descritption.

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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: lunkerhunter]
      #52282 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:32 PM

Can anyone explain this photo to me, it appears like a house floating in Mobile bay. Someone sent me this, and I'm not sure what to make of it.



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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: MikeC]
      #52283 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:34 PM

Houseboat maybe, that broke free?

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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: MikeC]
      #52284 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:35 PM

Interested to learn the science behind two aspects of Katrina.
one, why it spread out so much prior to landfall
secondly, it seems lately that most gulf storms weaken prior to landfall.
Still Katrina packed a powerful punch but it did spread out over a huge area
prior to impacting land.

Thoughts and prayers to all who are impacted by the storm and it's aftermath.
Lets all try and help if even in a small way.


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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: Lysis]
      #52285 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:37 PM

It is most interesting but that's how it goes. Let's move forward and help.

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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: MikeC]
      #52286 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:41 PM

I would bet that house doesn't belong there Mike. I drive I-10 and can't identify. Causeway anyone?

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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: MikeC]
      #52287 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:44 PM

Quote:

Can anyone explain this photo to me, it appears like a house floating in Mobile bay. Someone sent me this, and I'm not sure what to make of it.




Could that be the oil rig that struck a bridge in Mobile Bay?


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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: Random Chaos]
      #52288 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:47 PM

No, oil rigs don't look like that I promise.
ps my father(s) have been in the oil business since Pan Am said bring your own luch.

Edited by collegemom (Mon Aug 29 2005 08:50 PM)


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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: Wxwatcher2]
      #52289 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:50 PM

Storms as they move northward generally tend to grow in size. The same often holds for those that undergo eyewall replacement cycles; the system as a whole grows as a new, larger eyewall forms and replaces the smaller one. External influences can play a role upon this as well, but it's largely driven by inner-core changes.

We've seen three major storms this year -- Emily, Dennis, and now Katrina -- all undergo eyewall replacement cycles shortly before landfall. Generally, these came after periods of rapid intensification before landfall, as is expected for such storms. The very favorable conditions in the central Gulf lead, in all three cases, to scenarios favorable for the storms to ramp up rapidly. As a result, eyewall replacement cycles likely (since we don't know a *lot* about eyewall cycles, I have to qualify that statement like so) had an increased chance of occurring, leading to temporary weakening. As the storms neared the coast, the shallower waters -- not necessarily cooler, except in perhaps Dennis' case -- and the residual effects of the eyewall cycle plus (not always the case) increasing interaction with the midlatitudes lead to a decreased propensity to come in quite as strong as the storms once were.

Ultimately, it's partially luck and partially science at play here. Each storm stil packed quite the punch, just perhaps not as much as it could have. And, it's not always going to happen like this in the future, though a lot of times Gulf storms late in the season do weaken due to very shallow depths of warm water. Nevertheless, Katrina is going to go down in the record books; it may not have been the catastrophe that many feared, but it still did billions of dollars in damage to New Orleans, Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagoula, Mobile, and all areas in between and further inland. We'll be cleaning up from this one -- and trying to understand why the track shifted less than three days before landfall like it did and trying to see if the storm could have maintained itself (absent an eyewall cycle) as it approached land -- for many months. Best of luck to all of those in the affected areas.

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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: collegemom]
      #52290 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:53 PM

Just heard someone estimate the cost of damage will be more than the total of the four hurricanes last year. To help, they are asking for donations to the American Red Cross.

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Re: Katrina Aftermath [Re: MikeC]
      #52291 - Mon Aug 29 2005 08:54 PM

Quote:

Can anyone explain this photo to me, it appears like a house floating in Mobile bay. Someone sent me this, and I'm not sure what to make of it.






i just hope that's not rick's boat...

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